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Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« on: July 15, 2018, 07:17:27 pm »


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vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $ systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 4.226s (kernel) + 16.180s (userspace) = 20.407s
graphical.target reached after 16.063s in userspace
vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: Fenris-2 Kernel: 4.15.0-28-generic i686 bits: 32 Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Nine
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Dell product: Dimension 3000 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 0N6381 serial: N/A BIOS: Dell v: A03 date: 01/05/2006
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-MT-) cache: 1024 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2992 MHz 1: 2992 MHz 2: 2992 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: intel
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
           version: 1.3 Mesa 18.0.5
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-28-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller driver: e100
           IF: enp1s8 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (9.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Patriot_Flare size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 4.5G (25%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: /home size: 30G used: 452M (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.54GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 155 Uptime: 26 min Memory: 536.0/2010.3MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2018, 07:44:00 pm »
I'm very fond of the 32-bit Dell Dimension 3000.  That thing is built! :)
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2018, 10:49:42 am »
I've been having fun, playing with it. Graphics are definitely the weak spot for the Dimension 3000.

I've got a 'modern' nVidia PCI card set to arrive today or tomorrow, so we'll see how it rolls.

Regardless of the very limited 3D capabilities (OOTB), it serves the purpose as a good Peppermint 32-bit test box.  ;)

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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2018, 11:21:46 am »
Hello VinDSL,

A friend and neighbor of mine has been running Peppermint on his old Dell Dimension 3000 since Windows XP went belly up.  That old computer is a solid as they come.  I remember you mentioning the Dimension 3000 in some thread within the forum several months ago.  Didn't you replace that old 80 GB hard drive with an SSD? 

Anyway I'm glad to see Peppermint 9 is on your machine.  My friends computer is still running Peppermint 7.  What you've demonstrated to me here is that his old Dell still has a promising future, and that makes me very happy. :)

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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2018, 01:53:52 pm »
Hi perknh,
Yes, I replaced the spinner with a 60GB Patriot Flare SSD, which required a PATA-to-SATA adapter.

I replaced the original 128MiB of RAM with 2.0GB (2x1GB) also.

The CDROM and 3.5" floppy, USB ports et cetera work, in case I need them.

I had some legacy PCI video cards (from the '90s) in the closet - some high-end - some low-ball . They all provided 3D graphics - some better than others - but, none of them supported the resolution needed for the 23" monitors that I'm running, these days. Hopefully, the PCI card that I ordered will take care of that. It's been slowly traveling across the USA on FedEX trucks for the past 6 days -  was supposed to be delivered on the 14th - now they're saying it will be delivered on the 17th. I H-A-T-E FedEx... but, I digress.

Since your friend has a Dimension 3000, I might mention - the screenie above was taken running on top of Linux 4.15.0-28 (proposed repo). Linux 4.15 et al. does work on 32-bit, but it's laggy on ancient iron. Linux 4.4.139 (currently) performs much, much, faster and smoother.  ;)

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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2018, 02:12:00 pm »
Since your friend has a Dimension 3000, I might mention - the screenie above was taken running on top of Linux 4.15.0-28 (proposed repo). Linux 4.15 et al. does work on 32-bit, but it's laggy on ancient iron. Linux 4.4.139 (currently) performs much, much, faster and smoother.  ;)

This is good to know. So when the day comes, I will just bump him up to Peppermint 8.  Thank you, VinDSL. :)
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2018, 02:24:31 pm »
You're welcome, but Peppermint 9 32-bit works fine on top of the Linux 4.4.x kernel.

One can dual-boot Linux 4.15 and Linux 4.4 - that's what I'm doing - or just install Linux 4.4 in Peppermint 9 and purge Linux 4.15

I've been running one or the other, randomly, for a week or two, and the only difference I've noticed is Linux 4.4 is considerably more responsive and pleasant to use.

Just saying ...

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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2018, 02:54:48 pm »
You're welcome, but Peppermint 9 32-bit works fine on top of the Linux 4.4.x kernel.

One can dual-boot Linux 4.15 and Linux 4.4 - that's what I'm doing - or just install Linux 4.4 in Peppermint 9 and purge Linux 4.15

I've been running one or the other, randomly, for a week or two, and the only difference I've noticed is Linux 4.4 is considerably more responsive and pleasant to use.

Just saying ...

This is the first time I ever heard of downgrading the default kernel within a new distro, but we're dealing with an older machine too.  I may need some help with this when the day comes, but this is good to know.  I like Peppermint 9 a lot. :)  And perhaps this is only coincidental, but unlike with Peppermint 7 & 8, Opera beta now sizes itself correctly within Peppermint 9 upon installation.

Thanks.

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Opera beta is sizing incorrectly again. :(
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 09:42:45 pm »
GeForce 8400 GS card works fine. If you'll pardon the pun, it really Pepp'ed things up.

Linux 4.15.0-28 is usable now. Streaming YT vids play normally, as long as you use the default player settings.

I'll install the nVidia drivers in Linux 4.4.x next, and see how it goes.




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vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: Fenris-2 Kernel: 4.15.0-28-generic i686 bits: 32 Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Nine
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Dell product: Dimension 3000 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 0N6381 serial: N/A BIOS: Dell v: A03 date: 01/05/2006
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-MT-) cache: 1024 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2992 MHz 1: 2992 MHz 2: 2992 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           Card-2: NVIDIA G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 8400 GS/PCIe/SSE2 version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.106
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-28-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller driver: e100
           IF: enp1s8 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (10.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Patriot_Flare size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 4.9G (27%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: /home size: 30G used: 565M (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.54GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 153 Uptime: 1:16 Memory: 507.1/2010.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2018, 04:54:00 am »
Did you manually install 4.15.0-28 from proposed ?

Or have they moved it to the main repos now ? (if not, I wish they'd friggin hurry up .. I know they've pulled 4.15.0-24 'nvidia desktop killer' kernel, but there's still a LOT of people who already had it, so a working update would be nice)
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2018, 06:52:28 am »
Did you manually install 4.15.0-28 from proposed ?

It was a semi-manual install, from proposed, if you will.

I use proposed like salt n' pepper. I enable proposed in Synaptic - manually select the packages I want - let Synaptic install the packages and depends - then (most importantly) disable proposed in Synaptic when I'm done.

Put another way, I manually picked what I wanted in proposed, then let Synaptic do the heavy lifting.

Heh, does that make sense?  :)


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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2018, 07:15:28 am »
BTW, you didn't ask, but I manually remove all the cruft from the nVidia package after it's installed - basically, garbage removal.

I don't need all that parallel processing crap, and so forth, and so on.  ::)

On this particular machine, I manually removed everything except the 'nvidia-340' driver, and the 'nvidia-settings' tool.


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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2018, 09:00:54 pm »
(if not, I wish they'd friggin hurry up .. I know they've pulled 4.15.0-24 'nvidia desktop killer' kernel, but there's still a LOT of people who already had it, so a working update would be nice)

Guess it isn't fully cooked yet. All hail Linux 4.15.0-29  ;D

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Commit Log for Wed Jul 18 17:33:14 2018

Upgraded the following packages:
console-setup (1.178ubuntu2) to 1.178ubuntu2.1
console-setup-linux (1.178ubuntu2) to 1.178ubuntu2.1
keyboard-configuration (1.178ubuntu2) to 1.178ubuntu2.1
linux-generic (4.15.0.28.30) to 4.15.0.29.31
linux-headers-generic (4.15.0.28.30) to 4.15.0.29.31
linux-image-generic (4.15.0.28.30) to 4.15.0.29.31
linux-libc-dev (4.15.0-28.30) to 4.15.0-29.31

Installed the following packages:
linux-headers-4.15.0-29 (4.15.0-29.31)
linux-headers-4.15.0-29-generic (4.15.0-29.31)
linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic (4.15.0-29.31)
linux-modules-4.15.0-29-generic (4.15.0-29.31)
linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-29-generic (4.15.0-29.31)
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Inxi Information
vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: Fenris-2 Kernel: 4.15.0-29-generic i686 bits: 32 Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Nine
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Dell product: Dimension 3000 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 0N6381 serial: N/A BIOS: Dell v: A03 date: 01/05/2006
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-MT-) cache: 1024 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2992 MHz 1: 2992 MHz 2: 2992 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           Card-2: NVIDIA G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 8400 GS/PCIe/SSE2 version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.106
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-29-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller driver: e100
           IF: enp1s8 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (11.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Patriot_Flare size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 5.1G (28%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: /home size: 30G used: 618M (3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.54GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 158 Uptime: 12 min Memory: 502.8/2010.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
vindsl@Fenris-2 ~ $
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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2018, 09:27:43 pm »
Since your friend has a Dimension 3000, I might mention - the screenie above was taken running on top of Linux 4.15.0-28 (proposed repo). Linux 4.15 et al. does work on 32-bit, but it's laggy on ancient iron. Linux 4.4.139 (currently) performs much, much, faster and smoother.  ;)

@ perknh,
While Linux 4.4 worked fine with the onboard Intel GPU chipset, it doesn't like my new nVidia 3D card. I've reinstalled Linux 4.5 twice, since yesterday, to no avail.

It's hard-locking with keyboard errors at boot - probably an IRQ conflict, but I don't feel compelled to chase it down, considering Linux 4.15 is performing so well now with the nVidia 8400 GS card.

Just saying ...  ;)

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Re: Peppermint 9 (32-bit) - Dell Dimension 3000 PC (2004)
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2018, 10:59:15 pm »
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@ perknh,
While Linux 4.4 worked fine with the onboard Intel GPU chipset, it doesn't like my new nVidia 3D card. I've reinstalled Linux 4.5 twice, since yesterday, to no avail.

It's hard-locking with keyboard errors at boot - probably an IRQ conflict, but I don't feel compelled to chase it down, considering Linux 4.15 is performing so well now with the nVidia 8400 GS card. -- VinDSL

My friend only uses his computer for reading a little news and sending email.  Perhaps I'd be wise keeping him a couple of versions behind in Peppermint -- just take the if it ain't broke, don't fix it approach.  Peppermint 7 will be good until April 2021, right?

I'm having difficulty keeping up with all our versions of Peppermint.  One person I know is running Peppermint 6, the Dimension is running Peppermint 7, three others are running Peppermint 8, and I'm here running Peppermint 9! :o

Thanks, VinDSL.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2018, 11:35:46 pm by perknh »
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