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I am gonna go out on a limb here, and hazard a guess that it is most likely video card driver related.   ;)
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I wonder if this is a kernel mode setting isssue.

Have you tried setting "nomodeset" as a kernel boot parameter ?
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Thank you, rjm65, and PCNetSpec,

And, no, PCNetSpec,  I haven't.  I don't even know what a nomodeset as a kernel boot parameter is!

This the first time I've ever heard these terms.

Now I suspect this may not be a hardware issue, but a configuration issue for a particular piece of hardware.  If this is so, then this issue is still technically unresolved, even though everything else with Peppermint 5 seems to working fine with that legacy Dell computer.

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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2014, 08:14:03 pm »
Do you want to try it ?
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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2014, 08:54:14 pm »
Yes, PCNetSpec, I would.  But I don't have access that computer tonight.  But, I would like to see if we could fix this problem on that computer.  It would be nice to have the suspend feature working.

If you could send me some instructions, I will try them and get back to you with the results as soon as I can.   ;)

Thank you,   

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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 09:28:56 am »
run:
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sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
look for the line:-

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"

and change it to:-

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"

SAVE the file, and close gedit

back in the terminal run:
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sudo update-grub

Reboot.

Now see what happens if you suspend/resume.



to undo
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sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
change
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
save and close .. then run:
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sud update-grub
reboot.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 09:30:33 am by PCNetSpec »
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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 10:49:18 am »
Thank you, PCNetSpec,

I did as you said, but we ended up the same issue.  However when I went to reboot, I couldn't do so.  What I should have done, in hindsight, was immediately go back into gedit and undo those changes immediately after I saw that they weren't helping.

Now I'm on my personal computer, in Peppermint of course, and I'm downloading Lubuntu in order to see if this will make a difference on that old computer.

I will get back to you with the results.

Thank you for giving us those commands.  What's going on inside that old computer Dell Dimension 3000 is difficult to know.

Thank you, PCNetSpec, and I'll get back to you with the results from my experiment with Lubuntu.  By the way, Lubuntu is the distro I always try to keep away from.  But in the name of computer science, I'll give just about anything a try.   ;)

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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2014, 10:58:11 am »
I can tell you how to easily remove that boot parameter if you wish ?
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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2014, 11:07:32 am »
Turn ON your laptop, and as soon as your BIOS POST screen disappears, press the SHIFT key and hold it, until you are presented with the GRUB menu .. SIMILAR to this:
(you won't have long to hit the shift key, and the timing can be a little awkward, so it may even be easier to hit AND HOLD the Shift key DURING the BIOS POST .. ie. immediately after turning on your PC)


Select the 'default' kernel (usually the top one), and rather than pressing enter, press E to edit.

You will be presented with a screen SIMILAR to this:


Press DOWN ARROW until you get to the line that starts with:

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linux /boot

and press the END key to position the cursor at the end of the that line... it should currently end with “quiet splash nomodeset”.

Remove the word nomodeset

so it now ends with:-
quiet splash

Now hit Ctrl+X to boot.

Once booted, follow the "to undo" instructions in my earlier posting.
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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2014, 11:15:53 am »
Okay, I downloaded the 64 bit iso by mistake -- so I didn't get very far.   I'll go back to that Dell, and work on this.

Thank you, PCNetSpec.

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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2014, 11:43:31 am »
Okay, PCNetSpec, I did it somehow!  I removed nomodeset, and I'm back to quiet splash.   :)

We are up and running again --  with no harm done at all.   ;)

Do we have any other possible solutions to try on this old legacy computer?

Do you think Peppermint 3 might be a solution for this problem?  Or might there be a way to update the video drivers?

I'm just taking some guesses after rereading what you and rjm65 have said earlier.

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Re: Desktop Images Moving A Mile A Second After Coming Out OF Suspend
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2014, 01:50:41 pm »
No "safe" way to update the video drivers. .. you could try the xorg-edgers PPA which contains a slightly newer version, but don't blame me if it screws up completely requiring a reinstall.

Peppermint 3 might help as it'll be using a different version of Xorg

if you wanna know how to add xoorg-edgers and update .. let me know.
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Thank you, PCNetSpec. 

Thank you for all your time and energy in order to help us reach a solution here.

I didn't really feel like going for a PPA -- some PPAs seem to work better than others so I've learned.  And, I also didn't want to go back to an earlier kernel of Linux if I could avoid it.

Therefore, I installed Lubuntu to see if we'd have the same experience.  And, fortunately for us, installing Lubuntu proved to be a good solution to the suspend issue that was plaguing that old legacy Dell 3000.  Doing so did resolve that particular problem.

Now, here's a funny thing I've noticed while working with these old XP computers.  On the two old XP computers on which I've installed Linux, only the Ubuntu distributions with Firefox as the default browser would work without issue on those two older computers.  And on both these older computers, where I've had issues of one sort of another, the issues were with a distribution that had Chromium as the default browser -- not Firefox!

As you know I'm really a newbie to the world of Linux, but I'm wondering if the Chromium/Chrome base within Chromium-based distributions could be causing these older computers to have problems.

This is just an observation I have from my experience installing Peppermint 5 on two older computers.  Could the new changes found within Chromium's code be causing issues of one sort or another for these older computers?

I'm beginning to think this could be a possibility.   :-\

Thank you, PCNetSpec, and thank you too to Peppermint's new Trusted User, rjm65.  You have no idea how much we appreciate all your time, help, and effort in helping us to find a solution here.

Thank you, from perknh, and from his friend who is discovering Linux for the very first time -- and really enjoying it!  :)
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Nope .. unless the broser is running it could have no effect on the PC

Theoretically I suppose if an Aura version of Chromium was running when you went into suspend .. then *maybe* ??
(because the Aura versions use their own graphics stack)
But I doubt it.

It's just dawned on the that the only difference between the Lubuntu handling of the desktop and the Peppermint one is the compositor.

I'm willing to bte just turning off desktop effects would have solved the issue .. did we ever try that ?
(or possibly just setting sync to vertical blank)

But I don't suppose it matters now :)
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Oops-- no, we never did.

 :-[
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