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Normal Boot Time?
« on: December 03, 2017, 06:53:39 pm »
hi folks...what is considered a good boot time with peppermint?...my present cold boot up takes around 45 to 50 seconds which i have considered very reasonable but i keep reading about folks with much faster boot times...there is nothing on my hard drive except the OS...everything and i do mean everything else is stored and used via my USBs...the only thing i use on peppermint not supplied by software manager is my slimjet browser with startpage search engine and timeshift backup utility where i keep just one "on demand" backup that i change monthly...the samba sharing startups etc are disabled through bootup manager...am i in the normal range?...(no, im not talking about my deranged brain lol) ps...i also have identical boot up times across the board with LM 18.x sytems ive installed to date as well...doesnt matter if the system has 1 gig of ram, single, dual or quad core processors, or 5400 or 7200 rpm HDs...they all boot either peppermint or mint in same time...just wondering...DAMIEN
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2017, 06:58:24 pm »
Boot times are dependent on the drivers (as well as services) loading.

what's the output from
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systemd-analyze blame
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2017, 07:12:05 pm »
damien1307@damien1307 ~ $ systemd-analyze blame
         11.558s dev-sda1.device
         10.054s ufw.service
          8.548s systemd-sysctl.service
          7.878s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          7.829s systemd-udevd.service
          3.579s samba-ad-dc.service
          3.311s NetworkManager.service
          3.225s apparmor.service
          3.097s run-rpc_pipefs.mount
          3.076s thermald.service
          2.977s lightdm.service
          2.613s mintsystem.service
          2.357s ModemManager.service
          2.240s accounts-daemon.service
          1.916s grub-common.service
          1.868s keyboard-setup.service
          1.642s upower.service
          1.345s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
          1.327s systemd-journald.service
          1.295s systemd-modules-load.service
           970ms dev-mqueue.mount
           967ms systemd-rfkill.service
           857ms dev-hugepages.mount
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nmbd and smbd are disabled...should samba-ad-dc.service also be disabled as well...i do no sharing..DAMIEN
« Last Edit: December 03, 2017, 07:17:34 pm by DAMIEN1307 »
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 02:59:32 am »
Hi DAMIEN,
If you are not running a server, you can remove apparmor
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sudo apt-get remove --purge apparmor
That will give you 3.2s.
You can modify your /etc/default/grub file, so that Grub doesn't waste time looking for any encrypted partitions but, that will not give you even 1s... so, rather useless.

I don't think you can do much to your 11.6s for dev-sda1, unless you replace your spinning drive with a SSD.

 :-\ But, actually I wonder why it takes over 10s to start your firewall (ufw.service)?? :-\

My boot time is approx. 18s and that's nowhere near what I've seen from VinDSL  :D
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 03:10:20 am »
I don't know if you've run across this thread, but it might help you reduce your boot times: https://goo.gl/g6PLRD

My desktop box is a standard, run of the mill Dell 7010 i5 desktop box, with added memory, a SSD, and a $40 video card.

If you look at the last post in the thread, you'll see that its normal boot time is 3.5 seconds.  ;)
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 04:25:06 am »
I don't know if you've run across this thread, but it might help you reduce your boot times: https://goo.gl/g6PLRD

My desktop box is a standard, run of the mill Dell 7010 i5 desktop box, with added memory, a SSD, and a $40 video card.

If you look at the last post in the thread, you'll see that its normal boot time is 3.5 seconds.  ;)

That thread comes hightly recommended  :D

I love the tweaks it provides... just be very careful and make sure you follow fully any commands VinDSL posted that you want to impliment. If you miss any step you may bork your system.   I say may...

Not all steps will be needed on every single system.  They apply specifically to his machine.  you will need to see if they work for you.

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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 10:30:21 am »
using ...sudo apt-get remove --purge apparmor...did not decrease my boot time but increased it...im now at 57 seconds boot time by using this proceedure...tried to re-install it again but no dice
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 11:18:34 am »
using ...sudo apt-get remove --purge apparmor...did not decrease my boot time but increased it...im now at 57 seconds boot time by using this proceedure...tried to re-install it again but no dice

If/when you reinstall it...

I didn't remove AppArmor.  I just disabled it on the kernel boot command line.   ;)

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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 06:31:27 pm »
If you really want shorter boot times, there's nothing like an SSD.
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 01:33:42 pm »
MeThinks there's something very "Dell specific" about VinDSL's boot times... I did just shave 2 seconds off by editing grub... but that seems to have messed with my wifiUSB dongle... so will be adding those 2 secs back in a bit... I sit in the 25-28 sec range... also have an SSD...

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spence@antec ~ $ systemd-analyze blame
          5.768s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
           347ms networking.service
           324ms plymouth-read-write.service
           138ms dev-nvme0n1p2.device
           138ms plymouth-start.service
           116ms systemd-modules-load.service
            81ms mintsystem.service
            42ms lightdm.service
            40ms accounts-daemon.service
            39ms ModemManager.service
            39ms console-setup.service
            39ms udisks2.service
            38ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
            36ms systemd-logind.service
            34ms thermald.service
            34ms and.service
            33ms grub-common.service
            31ms irqbalance.service
            30ms ondemand.service
            27ms NetworkManager.service
            26ms upower.service
            23ms keyboard-setup.service
            21ms gpu-manager.service
            20ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-57bbc8a4\x2d363e\x2d472c\x2d9aa3\x2d
            20ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-d842cdaf\x2dcc54\x2d4917\x2d9070\x2d
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Since I never see the start-up nor shut down screens... may I unintstall plymouth?
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 08:11:58 pm »
If you uninstall plymouth you'll have no splash screen .. and i doubt if it'll speed things up anyway.
(it's only taking 324 milliseconds which is about a third of a second .. and is probably being run at the same time as other stuff)

If I had to guess I'd say your system is waiting on a wireless connection which is taking its time to become active .. have you set any shares to be automounted over wireless ?
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 09:23:52 pm »
No network shares... Samba is always purged... it never works with the main network's Win10 computers no matter what I try... As of this morning on 12/5/17, the WiFi USB dongle no longer connects automagically... has to be pulled out and reinserted after boot up completes... 
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 11:53:24 am »
Have you got an internal wireless card too ?
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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 12:55:30 pm »
Have you got an internal wireless card too ?

No Internal WiFi card... board doesn't appear to have any "onboard WiFi" ... originally built with an internal card that had antennaes, but it rarely worked, so I returned it for the dongle we've been messing with since last January... ...

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Re: Normal Boot Time?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2018, 09:47:44 pm »
TaDaaaaa! And now... a 7 second reboot... 18 sec total from pressing restart

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