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github's future?
« on: June 04, 2018, 12:48:48 am »
Just saw that microsoft is about to aquire github
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github
https://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-buying-github-is-reportedly-a-done-deal-03532736/

Let's see how this ends up, but... what is microsoft really doing here?!

Platinum member of the linux foundation, the thing about IoT and now buying git!

Control over linux and open source or trying to merge with it? Interesting times

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2018, 10:08:16 am »
A lot of people will see this as their old EEE policy at work, personally I see it as more proof they're planning on ditching "PC" OS development altogether and working towards using Linux (containing some proprietary stuff) to make money from the next revolution .. IoT devices.

Windows is dead (because the desktop market is no longer large enough to support the costs of a closed source development model) .. they know it .. so they have 2 choices

a) Open source Windows (so development comes freely from third parties) .. nobody really cares.

b) Move on .. to something already open source, but where they can use their name and expertise to attach a proprietary (but pretty opaque to users and third party devs) "security" subsystem .. this is precisely what they're doing with their Linux IoT OS.

What they want now is to befriend the Linux developer community and entice them to revolve around their IoT OS.

Github is as good a place as any to start this.

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2018, 01:22:43 pm »
I know that I don't trust them.

Next up: Office 365 comes to Linux with a monthly subscription fee.

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2018, 04:00:32 pm »
I know that I don't trust them.

That trust will have to be earned, and it's probably too late to do that for some of us.

What they want now is to befriend the Linux developer community and entice them to revolve around their IoT OS.

Github is as good a place as any to start this.

Why Microsoft's GitHub acquisition matters

By Ina Fried for Axios

https://www.axios.com/microsoft-open-source-180-github-acquisition-11f3396c-841e-4f96-8ca2-7360f9f19240.html

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 08:35:06 pm »
I don't think there's any reason to go crazy. They're not shutting it down and they're not "censoring" anyone. MS is steering toward Linux more and more. I'd really like to see MS Office running natively on Linux (totally doable considering the "new way" of selling software - I mean, a subscription that also gets you 1TB of cloud space).

MS isn't the same company from the 90's. Windows needs to be more modern, but that's almost impossible to do maintaining the main reason people still do use Windows (legacy software compatibility).
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Re: github's future?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2018, 12:01:37 am »

I don't think there's any reason to go crazy. They're not shutting it down and they're not "censoring" anyone. MS is steering toward Linux more and more...

Obviously, ms is not shutting down github. They have gaven up on their own development platform and ms developers are already today in majority at github. And, yes ms is steering towards Linux. So, actually the acquisition does make perfect sense  ;)

Side note: my question mark on the topic title is there since the deal was not official when I created the topic.

On one hand, I can clearly see the positive side of it, and unhappy devs can always move their code to gitlab instead.

On the other hand, I just don't like when there's only one option, it doesn't matter whether it's an OS, a search engine or even a tv channel. Freedom of choice is necessary for development to take place.

Its a needed step for ms, if they are to keep their pockets full going forward, but somehow I can't help disliking it... :(
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Re: github's future?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 05:37:33 am »
On the other hand, I just don't like when there's only one option, it doesn't matter whether it's an OS, a search engine or even a tv channel. Freedom of choice is necessary for development to take place.

Hah, **take that** all you people who suggest there's too many Linux distros, desktop environments, package formats, forks, etc. :P
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Re: github's future?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2018, 06:11:49 am »
I still have a github account, Void is hosted there, so I need it to build packages...

this is just ridiculous



It feels out of place... Guess, I'll have to get used to it   :(
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Re: github's future?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 07:08:57 am »
I'm going with PCNetSpec's IoT hypothesis.  All this cloud stuff -- Microsoft Azure -- is for the Internet of Things. 

By the way, this sounds like major threat, or challenge, to Ubuntu to me.  The IoT is the direction in which Ubuntu has been working towards too.
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Re: github's future?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2018, 07:34:35 am »
It feels out of place... Guess, I'll have to get used to it   :(

Or, look for an alternative  ;)

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2018, 07:45:59 am »
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Or, look for an alternative  ;)

Thx! Yes, I can move my fork wherever, but Void is hosted at github, so it would mean keeping my fork updated in regards to the upstream across two different platforms  :-\
... plus my local clone with the bootstrapped building environment updated in relation to... both?!  :o... sounds a bit complicated  ;)

Was already looking for the "how to..." at gitlab when I saw your post.

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2018, 08:25:19 am »
i dunno what to think.......i have always used bitbucket..... ;D or just plain ole git loacally

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2018, 10:06:43 am »
One more thing:
Score card for Microsoft:
200 plus and counting mergers

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Re: github's future?
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2018, 11:04:24 am »
I'll wait and see what the future brings.
I'm not a developer and do not code, in which case I would probably move today , but I just use it to package stuff.

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