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Need help installing themes
« on: May 18, 2018, 07:59:33 am »
I have just set up Peppermint OS on an old netbook that I want to give to a friend.

For this to be successful I know that the OS will need to look familiar to them. If the think they are running something new or unfamiliar (Linux) it will create a mental block in their mind and they will think it is too technical for them to use.

I therefore want to install a theme so that they feel comfortable using the computer and don't have to worry that it is running Linux under the hood.

I have selected out two themes that I would like to install.

Gnome OSC - https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1171688/

Windows XP by B00merang - https://github.com/B00merang-Project/WinXP-themes

I am following this tutorial - https://peppermintos.com/guide/customize/

I have downloaded the themes they are in my Downloads folder

I then run the following commands - see spoiler box below

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netbook@netbook ~ $ cd Downloads

netbook@netbook ~/Downloads $ mkdir ~/.themes
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/home/netbook/.themes’: File exists

netbook@netbook ~/Downloads $ cp -r WinXP-themes-master ~/.themes

netbook@netbook ~/Downloads $
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Yet when I look in 'Customise look and feel' the new theme has not turned up.

Could anyone help me solve this?

What am I doing wrong?

What might be causing the theme not to show up?

How can I check if the themes have copied correctly to the  or have installed correctly to the ~/.themes

Thanks in advance :)

SIde note

I tried to drag and drop and image from Downloads to usr/share/peppermint/wallpapers

But I get the following message - see spoiler box below

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There was an error moving the file into /usr/share/peppermint/wallpapers.

Show more details
Error moving file: Permission denied

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Could this relate to the issue that I am having with the themes too?

Update

I have navigated to my home folder and pressed ctrl+H on my keyboard to show hidden files.

When checking in .themes I can see the WinXP-themes-Master folder and the gnome-osc-themes-master folders inside .themes.

So the folders are in there.

But now the problem is figuring out why they are not showing up in 'Customise Look and Feel'
« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 08:36:17 am by 1uke_ »

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2018, 08:06:59 am »
To use them you have to untar/unzip the downloaded folder and move the resulting theme folder to /usr/share/themes
You need to use sudo to move the themes to that folder.

After that you should be able to choose and use those themes.
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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2018, 08:11:42 am »
Hi @Pin,

I had to make an edit to my original post as I accidently posted before I had finished writing everything.

Could you list the commands I need to run in order to get this working please?

Thank you!  :)

Edit

I should mention I have tried to run the command

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sudo cp -r WinXP-themes-master ~/.themes

But the theme still doesn't show up for me.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 08:17:22 am by 1uke_ »

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 08:33:07 am »
If you can wait and no one else comes around I can help in a couple of hours.

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2018, 08:37:51 am »
If you can wait and no one else comes around I can help in a couple of hours.

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hi @Pin,

I'd be really greatfull if you can come back and help me out when you have some spare time.

I've added this as an update to my original post, but just so you know ........

I have navigated to my home folder and pressed ctrl+H on my keyboard to show hidden files.

When checking in .themes I can see the WinXP-themes-Master folder and the gnome-osc-themes-master folders are inside .themes.

So the folders are in there.

But now the problem is figuring out why they are not showing up in 'Customise Look and Feel'

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2018, 08:42:01 am »
Back as soon as I'm home

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 08:59:52 am »
Just so I know, and I'm sorry if you already said it, but is this PM7 or 8?

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 09:37:48 am »
Just so I know, and I'm sorry if you already said it, but is this PM7 or 8?

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Hi @Pin,

I am using Peppermint 8  8)

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2018, 11:21:14 am »
Ok, here you go. Tested and working!

Open a terminal and ...
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cd Downloads
unzip WinXP-themes-master.zip
cd WinXP-themes-master/
ls -l
Now, you have to move these folders to /usr/share/themes. For example
Code: [Select]
sudo mv Windows\ XP\ Embedded/ /usr/share/themes/
sudo mv Windows\ XP\ Homestead/ /usr/share/themes/
...
Do this for all of them.

You'll now find the themes within "Customize look and feel"



Sorry about the resolution, but I did this on a virtual machine  ;)

EDIT: You can find Windows XP wallpapers here, http://hdw.eweb4.com/search/windows+xp/
Download the ones you want and move them to /usr/share/peppermint/wallpapers and they will be available when you right click the desktop  ;D
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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2018, 03:04:00 am »
@1uke_
Just found this if you would prefer a Windows 10 look
https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1013482/

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 02:35:32 pm »
@1uke_
Just found this if you would prefer a Windows 10 look
https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1013482/

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Thanks for the assistance @Pin,

I have some feedback for you

1. Feedback RE XP Theme

I have got the theme installed, but I have to say I'm a little disapointed with the theme.

I was expecting a full system 'make over'.

All i see is that the file browser has changed a little but everything else has stayed the same.

Here is a picture of the theme installed - https://i.imgur.com/W6otoxS.jpg

Here is an example image from the theme's website - https://bit.ly/2IAaGAx

I was expecting a new start bar with windows icon. New wall paper. New Icons.

Has something gone wrong or was I just expecting too much?

2. Installing Gnome-OSC ' theme

Can you help me install the  'Gnome-OSC ' theme - https://github.com/paullinuxthemer/gnome-osc-themes

I am unclear on what I need to do to get this theme in the looks and feels panel.

So far I have run the following command (see inside spoiler box).

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cd Downloads
unzip WinXP-themes-master.zip
cd WinXP-themes-master/
ls -l
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I'm not 100% clear on what to run next.

3. Windows 10 Theme.

Yes I'd be interested to try that theme too  :o ::) Hopefully it might be a bit better than the Windows XP theme.

Could you let me know what commands to run to get it in to 'looks and feels' panel please?

4. Wallpaper issue.

Finally I am still having an issue moving images to the Wallpaper folder usr/share/peppermint/wallpapers

I get the following message (see inside spoiler box).

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
There was an error moving the file into /usr/share/peppermint/wallpapers

Show more details
Error moving file: Permission denied
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Can you help me fix this please as I would like to add some additional wallpapers to the wallpaper folder.


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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2018, 02:52:19 am »
Hi 1uke_,

For point 4 (Wallpapers): you must be the admin in order to write any files into that folder. So in a terminal do something similar to this:

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sudo cp ~/MyWallpaper.jpg /usr/share/peppermint/wallpapers/
and enter your normal login password when requested.

For point 1: I think you are perhaps expecting too much. Many themes require that you do additional steps yourself (such as getting the wallpaper, copying it to the correct location, setting it to be your wallpaper, setting up the start bar with the new icons, etc.).

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Re: Need help installing themes
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2018, 03:39:10 am »
Hi 1uke_

As Slim already pointed out you need to copy or move the wallpapers as root.

To get the windows 10 look you also need the icons... here, https://github.com/B00merang-Project/Windows-10-Icons
The procedure is similar to the one described above for the themes, but icons go into /usr/share/icons

Again you have to use sudo, as only root can add/remove things in /usr/share.

For point 2...
If you read the README file in the github link, it explains how to do it.
https://github.com/paullinuxthemer/gnome-osc-themes/blob/master/README.md

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First: Download the file; extract it; and you will find two themes. a version with transparency, another with (not-transparent); copy both files to a '.themes'-folder you make in your home directory. Or to your USR/SHARE/THEMES-folder for system-wide use (certainly for theming of SNAP-packages) Then use Tweak-tool to select the GTK and shell theme. LOG OUT AND BACK IN for changes to take effect !

The commands are the same/similar to the ones that I wrote for the win-xp theme. Obviously, you need to adjust the name of the file to match the downloaded one. What you're showing in your "Spoiler for Hiden" section is for the previous theme.

I'm not at home right now, but if the downloaded file is a zip folder use, as previously the unzip command. If it is a tar.gz archive, replace the unzip command with the tar -xvf command.

Hope it is clear!?
Regards

EDIT:
I had a closer look at https://github.com/paullinuxthemer/gnome-osc-themes

Code: [Select]
cd Downloads/
unzip gnome-osc-themes-master.zip
cd gnome-osc-themes-master
ls -l

Now, you see that every folder consists of two themes...
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drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin  4096 Apr 30 16:28  Gnome-OSC--traditional-light-menus---2-themes
drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin  4096 Apr 30 16:28  Gnome-OSC-HS--2-themes
drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin  4096 Apr 30 16:28 'Gnome-OSC-HS-light-menu-- 2-themes'
drwxr-xr-x 5 pin pin  4096 Apr 30 16:28  Gnome-OSC-Shell-themes
drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin  4096 Apr 30 16:28  Gnome-OSC-SpaceGrey--2-themes
drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin  4096 Apr 30 16:28  Gnome-OSC-Traditional--2-themes

If you open one of these folder, you will see the difference. For example
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cd Gnome-OSC-Traditional--2-themes/
ls -l

will show you
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drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin 4096 Apr 30 16:28 'Gnome-OSC-Traditional-(not transparent)'
drwxr-xr-x 4 pin pin 4096 Apr 30 16:28 'Gnome-OSC-Traditional-(transparent)'

In other words, you have a transparent and a non-transparent version of the theme.

All these (6x2) themes have to be moved to /usr/share/themes in order to shown as an option within "Customise look and feel".
So in this example you will need

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sudo mv 'Gnome-OSC-Traditional-(not transparent)' 'Gnome-OSC-Traditional-(transparent)' /usr/share/themes

Obviously, you need to do this for every pair of themes in the folders.

Regards
« Last Edit: May 22, 2018, 09:33:02 am by pin »