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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2018, 05:44:04 am »
I can give you about five ways to break it if you wish .. non of which require an asteroid :)
(one is simply a gtk theme ::))

I should add I'm not blaming the *buntu devs for this .. it's more likely a gtk 3.20 issue (so Gnome), but it does highlight there are weaknesses in 18.04 that are going to catch people unaware, that aren't immediately obvious and are hard VERY to daignose.

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It might also explain Xubuntu's theming conservatism.
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2018, 10:44:47 am »
I installed xubuntu and found a problem with Dropbox.  It will install dropbox using nautilus, but I have been unable to get the preferences/settings to work so I can select which folders to sync.  :-\ It will just sync everything which is not what I want to do.  I have been searching for a solution but have not found anything yet. If you right click on the icon nothing happens.  This appears to be the case across all unbuntu flavors.   :(

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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2018, 06:14:14 pm »
Already fixed for the upcoming Peppermint 9 :)

But I can't point you at the .deb because it's nemo dropbox, not nautilus-dropbox
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2018, 11:18:26 pm »
So glad you fixed that already.  Great job as always.

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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2018, 11:43:11 am »
I have Ububtu 18.04LTS and Lubuntu 18.04LTS installed in my hard drive. I ran into a problem when I purchased a new mouse, it was way too sensitive. I was able to find a fix for 16.04 but the same fix doesn't work in 18.04. Apparently  xinput changed the format for 18.04 and Ubuntu Forum can't fix it, my problem that is. Last response was two days ago. Maybe I'm just spoiled from the fast response and continued response until a problem is fixed here in Peppermint.
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2018, 11:59:34 am »
I have Ububtu 18.04LTS and Lubuntu 18.04LTS installed in my hard drive. I ran into a problem when I purchased a new mouse, it was way too sensitive. I was able to find a fix for 16.04 but the same fix doesn't work in 18.04. Apparently  xinput changed the format for 18.04 and Ubuntu Forum can't fix it, my problem that is. Last response was two days ago. Maybe I'm just spoiled from the fast response and continued response until a problem is fixed here in Peppermint.

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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2018, 05:08:36 pm »


SpiderOak's Encryptr password manager doesn't work either. ::)


I had to install gnome-encfs-manager for encryption services.
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2018, 07:24:17 pm »
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2018, 08:58:24 pm »

I have a minor moan and it's not a new one.  The desktop appearance of Xubuntu 18.04 LTS is disappointing.  It's still the same old "Plain Jane" looking affair.  Xubuntu have the best menu and panel of any distro and the devs just refuse to dust off the cobwebs and give it some Zing-A-Ding-Ding  :-X.  The Xubuntu devs needs to get PCnetSpec to work on the appearance.  Or at least someone with some artistic imagination.  Mark manages to do it with Peppermint's hybrid DE.  It's not like it can't be done.  It's not a big issue.  It's irritating to see a fine distro let down by its tired appearance.
I disagree.
I like the plain and simple desktop and glad it has been left alone.  8)
If you like the eye candy there is Kubuntu 18.04 LTS which is really cool looking with all of the transparent windows / menus.

Don't get me wrong, I like Xubuntu 18.04 LTS.  I don't want all the frills and thrills Kubuntu offers OOTB.   With Kubuntu, I could spend the whole release cycle of the distro, tweaking and refining this and that :)).  I also like my computer's power to be used more productively.  What I'm saying is Xubuntu 18.04 LTS remains very utilitarian looking.  It's just a bit drab.  It could do with a little spit and polish, without adding bell and whistles.  Martin Wimpress has done it with Ubuntu MATE.  He's made what is essentially the GNOME 2 DE and revamped it.  It does look pretty good too, as long as you like toad green :)).   I've also made my installation of Xubuntu 18.04 LTS look good.  The devs at Xubuntu need to work on the OOTB ascetics of the distro.  It needs some eye catching sparkle.  Do that and it would attract more users.   It's still my favourite "buntu flavour and a really fine workhorse.  It's going to stay on my HP 6930p EliteBook as the machine's prime distro.
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2018, 04:45:00 am »

I wish all Linux distros would offer minimal installs as I'm one who believe less is best and plain and simple are even better although have the extras in the repository for those who desire the extras.
Which is why I prefer PeppermintOS  ;) 8)
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2018, 05:56:02 am »

I wish all Linux distros would offer minimal installs as I'm one who believe less is best and plain and simple are even better although have the extras in the repository for those who desire the extras.
Which is why I prefer PeppermintOS  ;) 8)
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me too   8)

but do note that apart from Xubuntu - All 18.04 current flavours offer a minimal install. The Devs get to choose what they want to take out.  Not all take out the same.
It does not make for a quicker install though as it goes through the main install and then removes those marked items at the end. So in fact it can take longer to install due to the way they have implemented it.

Another +1 for Peppermint.  It does make for a quicker install cos all the bloat is taken out BEFORE the Pep ISO is made.   Hoorah!! for Peppermint   :D
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2018, 11:15:42 am »
I've been looking at the minimal install option to allow us to install say LibreOffice on the ISO, but remove it during installation if the minimal install option is selected.

One thing I've noticed is that all the *butu's carry a list of packages to be **uninstalled** if the minimal install option is selected, but those lists have simple entries like:-
libreoffice
gimp
etc.

What they don't appear to be doing (unless I'm missing it) is removing orphaned dependencies that were originally pulled in by those packages .. so you'll likely still have some unnecessary bloat if that option is chosen, that wouldn't have been there had those apps not been installed in the ISO in the first place

I should add that I'm not 100% sure yet if the removal of orphaned dependencies is being done somewhere else .. so at the moment I'm not 100% sure of the accuracy of what I just suggested .. I still need to do some tests.
If we implement it, I'll test for all dependencies and list those too
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Re: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver.
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2018, 12:57:41 pm »
Hi PCNetSpec,

I know for a fact Ubuntu Mate did exactly just that.  Martin Wimpress said he saw what you just mentioned and got his team to work out the dependencies left behind and have them removed too.

I can't speak of the other flavours though.

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