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Installing XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?
« on: March 01, 2018, 03:32:56 am »
I don't forsee this being an issue, but I'm asking anyway just in case. Is there any reason why I couldn't install XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?  Is it simply running:
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sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies

If it is possible is there something else I should do in order to use the two without any problems?

Should I install Xubuntu instead of XFCE4 with this command instead of the one above:
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 sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop


Or maybe a combination of both:
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 sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop xfce4 xfce4-goodies

Thank you!
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Re: Installing XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2018, 03:56:10 am »
Hi koesherbacon,

Could you please post the output from this command:

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inxi -Fz
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Re: Installing XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 04:27:37 am »
I don't forsee this being an issue, but I'm asking anyway just in case. Is there any reason why I couldn't install XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?  Is it simply running:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies

If it is possible is there something else I should do in order to use the two without any problems?

Should I install Xubuntu instead of XFCE4 with this command instead of the one above:
Code: [Select]
 sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop


Or maybe a combination of both:
Code: [Select]
 sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop xfce4 xfce4-goodies

Thank you!

Hi koesherbacon,

Is there a specific reason you wish to do this, some functionality you are missing?

My guess, from previously installing multiple desktops on Ubuntu, is that doing this will simply screws things up.

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Re: Installing XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 05:08:54 am »
Quite a lot of the Peppermint DE is already xfce, so I would ask myself what am I missing and install only those components if possible.
The beauty is the mix between xfce and lxde  ;)
...and as Zeb already mentioned, you could end up screwing up your system.

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Re: Installing XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 10:21:13 am »
BE SURE TO READ ALL OF THIS POST BEFORE CONTINUING.

Okay I just ran:
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sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
in a clean Peppermint 8R2 VM and it worked perfectly(ish) .. I was able to change to an Xfce session at the login screen and from the short time I've tested it it seems to work. Except for a few things that would need tweaking such as the logout button in the whiskermenu needs it's command changing to "xfce4-session-logout", Nemo is still in the favourites as "Files" and panel launcher, and it switched to Adwaita as the icon theme so there are a few missing icons .. all of which are easily fixed.

BUT

When I tried the same thing on my main (on metal) setup, it was going to remove the HWE .. here's what it was going to do:
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mark@Dell-E6530 ~ $ sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
[sudo] password for mark:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  desktop-base gtk2-engines-xfce libical1a libtagc0 libtumbler-1-0 libxfce4ui-utils
  mousepad orage ristretto tango-icon-theme thunar thunar-archive-plugin
  thunar-media-tags-plugin tumbler tumbler-common xfburn xfce4-artwork
  xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin
  xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-mount-plugin
  xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-screenshooter
  xfce4-session xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-terminal
  xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfdesktop4
  xfdesktop4-data xfonts-scalable xscreensaver xscreensaver-data xserver-xorg-core
Suggested packages:
  sox kdelibs-data tumbler-plugins-extra gtk3-engines-xfce xfce4-cellmodem-plugin
  xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin
  xfswitch-plugin xfce4-hdaps gigolo parole fortunes-mod menu xfs | xserver
  xfishtank xdaliclock xscreensaver-gl fortune qcam | streamer gdm3 | kdm-gdmcompat
  xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi
Recommended packages:
  xorg perl5
The following packages will be REMOVED
  xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-input-wacom-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-video-all-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-video-ati-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-video-intel-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-video-qxl-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-video-vesa-hwe-16.04
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware-hwe-16.04

The following NEW packages will be installed
  desktop-base gtk2-engines-xfce libical1a libtagc0 libtumbler-1-0 libxfce4ui-utils
  mousepad orage ristretto tango-icon-theme thunar thunar-archive-plugin
  thunar-media-tags-plugin tumbler tumbler-common xfburn xfce4 xfce4-artwork
  xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin
  xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-goodies xfce4-mailwatch-plugin
  xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-places-plugin
  xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-session xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin
  xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-terminal xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin
  xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfonts-scalable xscreensaver
  xscreensaver-data xserver-xorg-core
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this may be something to do with the proprietary nvidia graphics drivers I have installed.

So if I were you I'd run:
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sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
but when it prompts you with "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]" .. enter "n" and hit enter to abort.

Then post back here what it said it was going to do in the terminal.



For information here's the same info from a Peppermint 8R2 VM:-

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mark@mark-pm8r2-64bit ~ $ sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
[sudo] password for mark:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-nma-1.0 libido3-0.1-0
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  desktop-base gtk2-engines-xfce libical1a libtagc0 libtumbler-1-0 libxfce4ui-utils
  mousepad orage ristretto tango-icon-theme thunar thunar-archive-plugin
  thunar-media-tags-plugin tumbler tumbler-common xfburn xfce4-artwork
  xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin
  xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-mount-plugin
  xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-places-plugin
  xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin
  xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-terminal xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin
  xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
Suggested packages:
  sox kdelibs-data tumbler-plugins-extra gtk3-engines-xfce xfce4-cellmodem-plugin
  xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce4-messenger-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-radio-plugin
  xfswitch-plugin xfce4-hdaps gigolo parole xsensors fortunes-mod menu xfishtank
  xdaliclock xscreensaver-gl fortune qcam | streamer gdm3 | kdm-gdmcompat
Recommended packages:
  perl5
The following NEW packages will be installed
  desktop-base gtk2-engines-xfce libical1a libtagc0 libtumbler-1-0 libxfce4ui-utils
  mousepad orage ristretto tango-icon-theme thunar thunar-archive-plugin
  thunar-media-tags-plugin tumbler tumbler-common xfburn xfce4 xfce4-artwork
  xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin
  xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-goodies xfce4-mailwatch-plugin
  xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin
  xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session
  xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-terminal
  xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfdesktop4
  xfdesktop4-data xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
0 to upgrade, 48 to newly install, 0 to remove and 2 not to upgrade.
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After this operation, 73.6 MB of additional disk space will be used.
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As you can see, in the VM it wasn't going to remove the HWE.

I GUESS you'd PROBABLY be able to reinstall the HWE after installing Xfce, but I can't say for sure
« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 10:23:01 am by PCNetSpec »
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Re: Installing XFCE4 alongside Peppermint-Desktop?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2018, 03:23:24 pm »
Hi everyone. Slim, I'm not at my laptop right now, I'll give you the output when I'm able.

Zed, my previous /home/ was pure xfce4 and while I love the the way much of Peppermint is set up, with Nemo, Pluma, and others, but I also don't want to have to re-setup everything the way I have previously.

I'll be able to give some other answers once I'm home and can check on all you've all brought up.

Thanks a lot for the input so far!
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