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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2018, 05:07:15 pm »
I'm embarrassed to say I've never moved a folder from an external device to a folder via the terminal, and I use the terminal a lot.  That said, I haven't learned how to move things from point A to point B yet through commands -- but using root, yes!

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I know the topic is GNOME, but this comment reminds me of the Linux distribution called CloudReady.  CloudReady (a Chromium OS) is good in the sense that you can salvage old devices that have been running Chrome OS from going to the landfill, but it's also a very limited OS too.  Now, I'm sure in more capable hands, it can do more than I can do with it -- GNOME too -- but I feel like I've got handcuffs on when playing with these distributions.  Still, they're good enough and secure enough for the needs of many users.  ;)

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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2018, 05:12:10 pm »
I think oin meant you should open the filemanager with elevated privileges from the terminal
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then use that file manager instance to access part of the system that require elevated privileges.
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2018, 05:41:03 pm »
Thank you, PCNetSpec.  I've heard of nautilus.  I wonder if GNOME and its derivatives -- Pantheon and Cinnamon -- are taking over  DEs in Linux.  I'm hoping Xfce will continue to hold its own.  It seems like when a distro has a set of DEs to choose from, Xfce is almost always among them. :)

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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2018, 07:31:31 pm »
Nautilus is (and always has been (AFAIK) the default file manager in Gnome.

If you count 'number of distros using a DE' I'd say Xfce is a clear winner. But if you're counting 'user numbers' I'd say Gnome has it .. purely because Ubuntu use it and they're likely bigger than all other distros put together (as far as the desktop goes).

Not to mention, Redhat, Fedora, and Suse also default to it.

As for is Gnome taking over DE's .. not really, they still probably hold the same position they have for years, ahead of KDE as far as holding the big distro names .. but KDE and Xfce aren't going anywhere.

It might be interesting to know though which DE is preferred by Linux system admins that install a GUI on a server .. I'd seriously expect most don't for security and stability reasons, but some will and I'd expect them to go for something light and functional over heavy and pretty.
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2019, 01:26:21 pm »
i used to like gnome, except i kept getting an issue where any opened applications just had a solid blue colour throughout the window and i couldnt do anything because controls werent visible. happened on a few different pcs too, i eventually just moved to lxde and now xfce

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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2019, 03:27:57 pm »
i used to like gnome, except i kept getting an issue where any opened applications just had a solid blue colour throughout the window and i couldnt do anything because controls werent visible. happened on a few different pcs too, i eventually just moved to lxde and now xfce

The pitch I hear for GNOME all the time is that GNOME gets out of the way.  But for me personally, I haven't found GNOME to be any easier, or any more user-friendly, than Xfce.  Xfce never gets in my way either.  In fact, I jump through fewer rings using Xfce than I do when I'm playing with GNOME.  The clock, for example, is something I personally would like to be able to see.  IMO, our LCD clock puts GNOME's clock to shame. ;)
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2019, 04:29:18 pm »
The pitch I hear for GNOME all the time is that GNOME gets out of the way.

I experimented with GNOME for a long time, when I was involved with Ubuntu GNOME3 staging.

It's a different mindset, requiring a whole new toolset, and frankly, most ppl just don't get it.

My analogy would be, tricycle vs bicycle. And, yes, bikes are much preferable to trikes, once you get used to them.  ;)

After you learn to ride GNOME, you don't have to think about it.  It just magically steers where you want it to go.

One of the complaints I used to hear about Unity (GNOME-based) was, you're stuck with the UI - it isn't customizable. LoL

I was running 9 active desktops on Unity in 2011 on my 32-bit MM box, by haxoring the GNOME unpinnings:





I wouldn't even know where to start doing something like this, in 2019, on Xfce. Bikes n' trikes...  ;D

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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2019, 05:03:34 pm »
I'm not a GNOME hater, but, for starters, I wish its panel were more configurable.  Also, and this could just be me, if anything's going to go wrong, it will go wrong within Ubuntu's GNOME DE -- just like it always did within Unity before it.  I actually like the look of GNOME, but then I like how Xfce looks too.

Funny story:  I bought an old copy of Carolyn Z. Gillay's Linux User's Guide that featured the GNOME desktop.  Only problem is, that old book was featuring GNOME 2!  ::) & :o & ;D

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Personally, I like GNOME 3 better than MATE.  ;)
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2019, 05:25:58 pm »
I'll stay outa this, I don't wanna be seen taking the pee outa the Gnome devs deafness and slow slide into senility.
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2019, 05:36:42 pm »
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2019, 06:02:02 am »
I'm a bit late for this discussion... I have experimented with lots of DEs and I believe that all offerings are great, to the point that I feel like my distro hopping have been seriously aggravated.

IMO Gnome is very good. I feel I'm very productive using it as I'm less distracted by the interface. The panel can be satisfactorily tweaked with extensions (yes, they may break from one version to another, but you can avoid that sticking to "stable" distro releases).

KDE is another favorite for different reasons. Looks and performs great while letting me easily configure everything.

Now Peppermint, that's on another level. That's the only partition I'm never replacing.
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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2019, 04:07:51 pm »
IMO Gnome is very good. I feel I'm very productive using it as I'm less distracted by the interface. The panel can be satisfactorily tweaked with extensions (yes, they may break from one version to another, but you can avoid that sticking to "stable" distro releases).

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GNOME is what it is, but it's also what one makes of it.

Now Peppermint, that's on another level. That's the only partition I'm never replacing.

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Talking about GNOME, as much as I like it on the desktop, IMO it's ill-suited for mobile usage, for a number of reasons.

That's where Canonical went wrong - trying to meld the two...

Peppermint OS, on the other hand, covers all the bases equally well.

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Re: Gnome desktop - my frustration
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2019, 04:35:28 pm »
GNOME is what it is, but it's also what one makes of it.

If you'll pardon me for quoting myself; while I was typing that...

I remembered that when Unity (GNOME-based) first came out, everyone was bitching and crying about Canonical placing the supposedly unmovable/unmutable panel on the left side of the screen. So I haxored Unity, using GNOME as a development tool, and placed it on the bottom.





This butt-fugly demonstration shut them all up, over on the Ubuntu site. LoL  :D