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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 09:41:31 am »
It's about time.  We knew this was coming, but it seems to have taken a long time to happen.  32-bit is literally last century's tech, they've needed to drop it.

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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 09:55:53 am »
By the looks of things you'll still be able to upgrade a 17.04 32bit install, so at least for now they're keeping the 32bit software and kernels updated .. so theoretically we can still (hopefully) provide a 32bit ISO as long as they also do it for 18.04.

But I agree with scifidude79 32bit should really be dead by now, or at least by 2021 when 16.04 support ends.
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 10:06:59 am »
The demise of 32Bit Linux is inevitable.

You know that. I know that. We know that. With time, technology moves on.

As mainstream Linux distros stop supporting 32Bit systems, in next 2 years or so, ppl won’t be left without a Linux distribution. You just won’t be getting the popular choices like Ubuntu, Arch, Debian et cetera.

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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 10:11:50 am »
Yeah, there will still be 32-bit Linux available, but it makes no sense for the Linux giants to keep supporting something that probably a tiny bit of their user base actually runs.  Plus, a lot of systems that would still require 32-bit are ones that, truth be told, would probably have issues running modern systems anyway.  So, it's been a long time coming.

When I started with Ubuntu in 2009, the 64-bit version was still fairly new and wasn't recommended by them.  (I still ran it, but that's beside the point)  Now it's most definitely recommended.  ;)


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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 10:27:22 am »
This only really bugs people who view Linux solely as "for old PC's no longer supported by Windows" .. That's not (and never was) a Linux mission, it was only ever a happy side effect.
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 10:28:56 am »
Yeah, it was always intended to be an alternative to mainstream operating systems, not something you run because the OS that came with your computer is outdated and newer versions won't work with it.   ::)

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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 10:56:31 am »
This only really bugs people who view Linux solely as "for old PC's no longer supported by Windows" .. That's not (and never was) a Linux mission, it was only ever a happy side effect.

True!

I've been around since well before Linux was a gleam in Linus Torvalds' eyes. Same with you, I'm sure...

Linux IMO was started as a POC, but was quickly set ablaze by all the possibilities.

Eventually, and for years, the Linux 'mission' was to take over the server market. They didn't give a hoot in hell about PCs. Remember all the infighting that took place, in the community, because the 'playground kiddies' couldn't get any help/support from Linus? When they found bugs that were causing probs on their PCs, Linus dispatched them with a belch.

It wasn't until Linux had a stronghold on the server market, that they paid ANY attention to PCs, new and old.
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 11:01:39 am »
New entry level 64 bit motherboards and processors are real cheap. I paid about one hundred bucks for mine(mobo and processor).

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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 11:24:53 am »
You are all right.  However, as the owner of a 32 bit PC it's sad to see you may not be able to get software for it in the future.   ???


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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 11:34:41 am »
You will be able to .. just not Ubuntu (and some others).

But slowly all the third party app devs are dropping 32bit versions of their software so it'd be kinda pointless to have a 32bit OS with no software to run on it.

This is the real reason they're dropping 32bit .. it would be too much effort to have a 32bit version of your distro with different software to the 64bit version because 32bit versions of the software don't exist .. the only other option would be to have the 64bit version running non-optimal software, it'd be a shame to hold back the many for a few.
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 01:23:18 pm »
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 01:42:55 pm »
Bwahahaha!!! :))

(I was half expecting something though ;))
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 10:18:17 am »
But slowly all the third party app devs are dropping 32bit versions of their software so it'd be kinda pointless to have a 32bit OS with no software to run on it.

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I still maintain a doorstop Win 98SE box (Cyrix CPU) as a proxy server on my LAN. None of its software has been available for years. It still runs great - no security issues because it isn't facing the web (WAN), et cetera. Suit-to-purpose, so to speak. Using this box on the web would be impossible.

As another example, we still use MSDOS, winders 2000 & XP at work, for machinery controllers. The OSs cannot be upgraded because there is no alternative/upgraded 64bit third-party software to control the machines. We're stuck with 32bit. Again, suit-to-purpose.

Back to 32bit Ubu...

What do people use it for? If they're using it for machinery control systems, proxy servers, word processing, et cetera, no problem - they can happily stick with (say) Ubu 10.10

IMO, the final nail in the coffin is going to be, when people can't find a modern 32bit browser .

As, you say, what's the point, when you can't find 32bit software?   8)
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Re: Ubuntu to drop 32bit Desktop ISO images from 17.10 release
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 01:48:14 pm »
There ya go, I tweaked your "Egg Zactly" for ya :)

IMO, the final nail in the coffin is going to be, when people can't find a modern 32bit browser .

That time it is a'coming.
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