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Who woulda thunk it ?!?!?   8)



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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 08:51:27 am »
So this is all CLI ?

That'll greatly impress the Windows world :))  <-- sarcasm for those that may have missed it

"Oh, but it's supposed to draw in Linux sysadmins" I hear you say .. yeah right, like that's gonna happen.

"I know, let's administer our secure Linux server from a totally insecure system" .. something tells me you'll not hear that said too often.
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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 09:55:24 am »
That taskbar and menu make me want to hurl.

If you're not actually running Linux, I don't see a point in this.  I mean, what does it do, besides say "Ubuntu" in the terminal?

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 10:03:01 am »
It would be useful for administering Linux servers from a Windows PC I guess .. but who would do that ::)
(or maybe I'm being blinkered)
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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 10:04:06 am »
It would be useful for administering Linux servers from a Windows PC I guess .. but who would do that ::)

Like I said, I don't see a point in this.  Unless there's something I'm missing.

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 01:30:47 pm »
The amazing thing, for me, is how MS's attitude changed from 'Linux is a cancer' to 'let's add Ubu to the winders store'.  :-\

I'm in Vegas, right now, so I don't have the time or inclination to investigate, beyond simply installing it.  Some winders users couldn't figure it out. LoL !  The 'trick' is to go into the legacy CP and enable "Windows Subsystem for Linux".  Then, install Ubu from the winders store. BAM !

I'm hoping I can get Conky to work.  I *thinking* it'll run in CLI, but I'm not so sure about the winders UI layer. 

I'll give it a whirl, later this week, when I'm back to a safe harbor.

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 04:03:52 pm »
The amazing thing, for me, is how MS's attitude changed from 'Linux is a cancer' to 'let's add Ubu to the winders store'.  :-\

Option 1: It's simple, really.  M$ fell asleep at the wheel and missed the whole switch to mobile platforms, so now a Linux-based OS is the #1 OS in the world as far as market shares.  M$'s own market shares have been plummeting, and more and more users are even switching to Linux on their desktops and laptops amid issues like stuff not working on Winders 10 and the whole spying on you issue.  (plus, it still runs like crap on lower power laptops)  XP is officially dead, you can't even activate an XP installation anymore, and not everyone who hasn't upgraded from XP is picking Winers 10, some are going to the Linux side.  So, I think the current attitude is more of an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" kind of deal.  Because, as we all know, they've been unsuccessfully trying to kill Linux and make users not want to go there for over 20 years, but Google has put Linux into the hands (literally) of so many people that M$ may finally be realizing that they're in a battle they may no longer be able to win.  So, they've decided to team up with the most popular Linux-based OS for desktops and laptops, hoping to get into the Linux community's good graces.  What will make me soil myself is if they release their own true Linux OS that's free to use, maybe even open source.

Option 2: They're trying to destroy Linux from the inside.
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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 05:07:06 pm »
if they release their own true Linux OS that's free to use
...it'll instantly charge you $150 when you agree to the licence and it'll be called WeBumpedU.

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 05:44:16 pm »
if they release their own true Linux OS that's free to use
...it'll instantly charge you $150 when you agree to the licence and it'll be called WeBumpedU.

Yeah, you can be sure that "free" will be redefined.   ;)
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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017, 07:16:12 pm »
Struth!   :o

Are you suggesting that the folks at Mióro$oft Windoze would actually shag out, nobble, fleece, swindle, dupe their customers  for extra money?
For things they could get free elsewhere?  Oh say it isn't so!

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2017, 10:03:37 pm »
I personally don't have anything against Microsoft, I just don't like running Windows anymore.  I still use my XBOX and XBOX 360.  (though, I don't let the 360 on the internet)  I was done with Windows before the debacle that is Windows 10, so I can officially say it doesn't affect me one way or the other what they do.  I just think it's odd to add what seems to be a useless Ubuntu element into Windows 10 when you can download and run the real deal for free.

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2017, 11:17:27 pm »
This post makes me want to Rage Quit you VinDSL
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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2017, 11:21:14 pm »
Heh!  Don't 'rage-quit' the messenger  ;D

I didn't think they were serious ...

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Re: Microsoft actually followed through - Ubuntu available on '10'
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2017, 11:40:35 am »
Sell out?  I saw no mention of money exchanging hands.  It says they "partnered with" Microsoft.  A partnership could mean any collaborative effort, it doesn't mean Microsoft paid for anything.  Also, this is still a huge shot in the arm for Linux.  For years, Microsoft has been trying to take down Linux with its FUD campaigns.  Now it seems like they're actually ready to embrace it, at least on some level.  This means that Windows users who know nothing of Linux can start learning it.  It also makes cross platform software development easier.  One of the biggest (lamest) excuses I see from indie game devs is that they don't have Linux machines on which to test stuff.  Well here's Linux on your Windows machine, so it's time to find another excuse.  I may kid around and say stuff like Microsoft is trying to take down Linux from the inside, but to be honest having them partner with Linux developers is in no way a bad thing.  And, companies like Canoinical, Red Hat, SUSE, etc. have absolutely nothing to lose and a lot to gain.