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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2017, 02:18:30 pm »
@ toddgim

Can we have you're
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@ both of you.

This most likely a kernel regression .. would you like instructions to go back to the 4.4 kernel series which "hopefully" will resolve the issue.
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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2017, 07:51:23 am »
AfternoonMark I'm afraid I've 'regressed' away already - back to Pepp 7 lol  ;D (which aint such a bad thing  ey?)
Hopefully the kernel regression will sort things out for toddgrim.
@ Andy - sorry for the late response had some other things to do plus was 'perservering' a while with Pepp8 - things seemed ok for a while then niggles, seemed mainly graphics/browser related (distortions & tabs disappearing) - I couldnt get firejail configured properly & then of course the annoying shutdown failure  >:(
So I'm back where i belong  :)
Will leave the marking of the topic Andy as [SOLVED] or [ABANDONED] until we see how toddgrim & Mark get on ;)
Now I know this is a bit off topic Mark, but there are a couple of things from Pepp 8 I would like on my Pepp 7 if at all possible - the Peppermix-dark-grey theme & the numix-folders (noticed that was in the Pepp 8 repos)  :D

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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2017, 11:00:10 am »
Hmm....

NOT advisable to install packages from the PM8 repos on PM7 .. I moved a LOT of stuff about which may break things.

numix-folders will (AFAIK) only work with the version of numix on PM8, but we can work around that.

and currently the only way to add the peppermix-dark-grey themes (icons and gtk) is via the PM8 peppermint-artwork package that would break likely break PM7 .. again we can work around this.

So are you after the peppermix grey gtk theme or icon theme .. or both ?

Actually, can you start a new topic about this, so others can benefit :)
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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2017, 02:47:59 pm »
Good Evening Mark - okey dokey will move the icon/ theme request to a new post over here: https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,5656.msg56759.html#msg56759 ;)

Regarding my set up - spent some time reconfiguring my pepp 7 reinstall which went well however I had a sudden crash with my screen freezing to the  same vertical stripes that I had in my pepp 8 install (only a rather fetching pink/cherise number this time - as opposed to the green with pepp 8 lol  ::)) - joking aside it is somewhat concerning - maybe the 'old girl' is really ready for the knackers yard  :(

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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2017, 04:13:16 pm »
Hi fella, before you send the old girl to the knackers yard. Your inxi -F states you're still using OEM 60Gb HD.   ;)

Try the following, worked for my aging Lenovo N200, that had similar issues.   ;)  Retired to a charity shop, a couple months ago.
A new hard did solve a lot of the issues, though occasionally required the hard drive being unplugged then reinserted, for a fresh install.   >:(  My why didn't I do that first, look   ;)
Not scientific, there does seem to be a blockage, that's cleared when the HD is removed.

1. Remove battery
2. Remove hard drive
3. Re assemble

If no improvements:

1. Wipe hard drive
2. Remove battery
3. Remove hard drive
4. Remove ram
5. Re assemble
6. Re install
     
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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2017, 04:21:07 pm »
That sounds a lot like a graphics memory issue .. so (as laptops tend to use system RAM for the graphics) if possible, take out the RAM, clean the contacts, and reseat it.
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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2017, 06:12:32 pm »
Cheers for the responses Mark & Cavy.

Over the last few months I've 'upgraded' the old girl a little - 2gb RAM (Samsung 2 x 1gb PC2 4200) > 4gb RAM (Hynix 2 x 2gb PC2-6400) - which doesn't appeared to have made any difference - I think the highest RAM usage I ever had was about 1800mb (in task manager) streaming video - might be a bit of a simplistic way of looking at it granted.

I've also changed my CPU from AMD Turion 64 (single core) 2Ghz to AMD Turion 64x2 (Dual core) 1.6Ghz.
Often the original CPU was maxed out with tasks becoming very sluggish & its much better now with the extra core despite the slower clock speed. But that's not half the story because in between I had 3 more CPU's that didn't work (2 duff & 1 probably wrong architecture).
So this lappy has be stripped down (& cleaned) at least half a dozen times. So other than wipe the the HDD (which I am loathe to do because its got Win XP on it & I use it for working with my ipod as cant do very well in linux) or buy anew one, Cavy I've got your bases pretty well covered (SMART test on Disks reports "Disk is OK, 2 bad sectors")

Good price on the those refurb HDDs though (looks like we're on the same side of the pond - I'm in Nottingham mi duck)

And thanks for your after install tips for Peppermint Cavy - found them the other day - some good advice  ;)

Will do the RAM Mark - Memtest86 - doesn't appear to be working with the Hynix (although it's fully recognised by my system & seems to works well) but I might bung the Samsung RAM back in & see what's what  ;)

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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2017, 06:52:04 pm »
Hi.

I've a fresh installed Peppermint 8 on an old (ancient?) Acer Travelmate 634LC, and I experience the very same problem  - Shutdowget to thn just doesn't work.
It get to that screen where the text "shutting down" appear on a background similar to the install background, but with very few colors. And it stuck there until I physically use the power button.

Things about this computer: Hard-drive is just installed (60 Gb IDE, Hitachi Travelstar). There is no wifi card (yes it is that old). Last time I checked, memtest did not repported any error, but I get error msg when trying to run memtest from PM iso file.

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geir@TravelMate ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: TravelMate Kernel: 4.8.0-58-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Eight
Machine:   System: Acer (portable) product: TravelMate 630 v: -1
           Mobo: ACER model: TravelMate 630 v: Rev.A
           Bios: Phoenix v: R01-C0N date: 09/04/02
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 Mobile (-UP-) cache: 512 KB
           speed: 1800 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV11M [GeForce2 Go]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1400x1050@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI nv11 x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.2 Mesa 17.0.2
Audio:     Card ULi M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
           driver: snd_ali5451
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.8.0-58-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139too
           IF: enp0s10 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (10.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HTS54106 size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14G used: 3.4G (27%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: /tmp size: 2.5G used: 3.8M (1%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-3: /home size: 32G used: 36M (1%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda7
           ID-4: /boot size: 735M used: 115M (17%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-5: /var size: 5.6G used: 719M (14%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda6
           ID-6: swap-1 size: 2.05GB used: 0.07GB (4%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 17.0C mobo: 17.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 189 Uptime: 15 min Memory: 245.8/491.7MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
geir@TravelMate ~ $

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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2017, 07:06:22 pm »
If you leave it at the "shutting down" screen for 5 minutes, does it eventually shut down ?
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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2017, 01:10:30 pm »
I feel pretty sure that I have left it for more than 5 minutes, but I have not actually tried to clock it.

Just after I posted that post, I just turned the computer off (or I tried at least), but this time the screen went completely black, no hdd activity - it just stays on, but black screen (fan, disk and lights is turned on). No reaction from any mouse or keyboard input.

So it is not showing the graphics every time.

Could it be because I've choosed BTRFS instead of ext4 for Home and Var?

I don't know if this is relevant, but when I installed PM8, I went for Something else because I have a setup that I like - I have used this way to partition 3 other computers, other distros, but none of them fails to shut down.

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Just after writing this, I left for 20 minutes and still nothing (had to use power button)

By the way, I suspect the battery to the laptop is dead now - it charges (or at least think so) but state it has 0% power left)


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Just to be sure - full battery status:
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geir@TravelMate ~ $ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
  native-path:          BAT0
  vendor:               Acer
  model:                Bat0
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              to. 20. juli 2017 kl. 19.39 +0200 (67 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               charging
    warning-level:       none
    energy:              0 Wh
    energy-empty:        0 Wh
    energy-full:         58,016 Wh
    energy-full-design:  58,016 Wh
    energy-rate:         0 W
    voltage:             14,8 V
    percentage:          0%
    capacity:            100%
    technology:          lithium-ion
    icon-name:          'battery-caution-charging-symbolic'

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Just tried to remove the battery (while switched off, of course), then start PM8, and tried to shut down yet another time. No change - the laptop did not shut down. This time the "shut-down graphic screen" was visible, not just black screen.
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Re: Peppermint 8 - New Installation - failing to shutdown
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2017, 10:55:45 am »
When the shutdown hangs, if you hit the "Esc" key, are there any messages displayed on screen ?

Also, does this command shut the system down cleanly
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