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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 01:51:43 pm »
I assume that you make a bootable DVD of iso using unetbootin or something similar to use the windows iso image.  Is that right?  Thanks.

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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2014, 02:05:01 pm »
I assume that you make a bootable DVD of iso using unetbootin or something similar to use the windows iso image.  Is that right?  Thanks.
The iso file is already bootable just burn it to a dvd using whatever software for burning you are familiar with...
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2014, 07:01:11 pm »
If you cannot burn it to a DVD, and absolutely need to create a Windows 7 USB installation media .. see here:
http://arstechnica.com/business/2009/12/the-usb-flash-drive/

But I'm afraid you're going to require another Windows PC to create it on.
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2014, 10:09:11 pm »
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I tried what Mac suggested and it completely overwrote my windows partitions including my recovery partition.  Now the only thing on my PC is peppermint 5.  That's a big problem for me.  I don't have a windows 7 disk so I'm going to have to buy one and reload everything.  I'm really in trouble now...

Oh my, jlschwartz.  You must have chosen the install option that wipes the entire disk which was not at all my suggestion. 



When you said earlier....
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I am familiar with Gparted and in fact I have been using it right now
...I assumed you were going to create partitions on which to install Linux.  I did not see your subsequent posts until just now as I have been away from the computer today.  Kendall's explanation of what should have happened is what we were aiming for.  Sorry it didn't work out that way. 

So, moving on, you can download the Win7 ISO and create a DVD (as per Kendall's post), install Win7 (which will wipe your hard drive) and then use Gparted from the Peppermint cd/usb to create your partitions.  Then install P5. 
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2014, 04:27:26 am »
I tried what Mac suggested and it completely overwrote my windows partitions including my recovery partition.  Now the only thing on my PC is peppermint 5.  That's a big problem for me.  I don't have a windows 7 disk so I'm going to have to buy one and reload everything.  I'm really in trouble now...

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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2014, 08:35:12 am »
Follow what Mac says, only I would not run gparted...
Install windows, then boot peppermint 5 live cd/usb and click install peppermint 5...
Choose install side by side with windows and let the installer make your partitions for you.... ;)
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 11:49:04 am »
All,

Thanks for the help.  When this happened I selected replace Peppermint 5 using the 64 bit live usb.  That's when the system not only replaced Peppermint 5 but also wiped my entire system in the process.  Not good. 

I have spent the better part of 2 days getting my machine back so I can use it with windows 7.  I use this machine on the road so I need it desperately to work.  I don't know if I have enough nerve to try to install Peppermint 5 again.  If I do I can tell you it will only be the 32 bit version.  The 64 bit version install scares me.  Thanks.  Jeff

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I just booted up with the Peppermint 5 32 bit version live usb.  When beginning install I get this "the system does not detect an operating system in this computer".   Obviously, I just re-installed windows 7.  There is something very wrong with the install detection.  Thanks.  Jeff
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 01:25:39 pm »
Can anyone walk me through how I could install Peppermint 5 now since even the 32 bit version does not recognize windows 7?  Thanks.  Jeff

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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 03:16:47 pm »
Can anyone walk me through how I could install Peppermint 5 now since even the 32 bit version does not recognize windows 7?  Thanks.  Jeff
I was able to detect Windows 7 Pro from the beta version of Peppermint 5 (64 bit version)... is there any way you could post screen shots of what you're seeing jlschwartz?

As an aside I just took a peek at the "Running the Installer" guide here http://peppermintos.com/guide/downloading/, this could probably be updated with some screen shots to make it easier to confirm the "correct" options are being selected, this might not be straight forward to people who are completely new to Linux.  The following piece of information on the "Running the Installer" guide should probably be emphasized a little more too,
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Other options here are to simply wipe the entire disk or to set up a more advanced partitioning table. If you're unfamiliar with setting up a partitioning table, it's advisable that you not select this option.

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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2014, 03:53:10 pm »
Can anyone walk me through how I could install Peppermint 5 now since even the 32 bit version does not recognize windows 7?  Thanks.  Jeff

Did you install Win7 using the whole drive ?

Boot to the LiveCD/LiveUSB and select "Try Peppermint" .. then once at the desktop open a terminal and post the output from:
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2014, 08:54:48 am »
Yes.  I used the whole disk for windows 7.

See the following:

peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo fdisk -l

WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.


Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
256 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38761 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0000e0ea

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1  4294967295  2147483647+  ee  GPT

Disk /dev/sdb: 4009 MB, 4009754624 bytes
23 heads, 22 sectors/track, 15477 cylinders, total 7831552 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *          32     7831551     3915760    b  W95 FAT32
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2014, 10:15:28 am »
OK, I think I've got some info that could be useful for others.  Last night I installed Peppermint 5 using the "Something Else" option, I formated an old ext4 partition that previously had Linux Mint 13 and installed Peppermint in it's place.  After restarting I was surprised to see that no grub menu showed up at all.  This definitely didn't use to be the default for grub, to fix this issue I installed grub customizer using the following:
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
After launching grub customizer, I clicked on "General settings", selected "show menu", and changed the "Boot default entry after" time to 3 seconds.  For some reason the "Boot default entry after" option reverts to 10 seconds unless you first click on another tab (e.g. List configuration), then click "Save" in the top left corner.

Another option is to manually update /etc/default/grub, changing "GRUB_TIMEOUT" to the desired time and commenting out "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT".  Run sudo update-grub after making any changes to grub settings.
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2014, 12:33:08 pm »
shmitzr1984,
I have a different problem.  Peppermint 5 install does not recognize that I have windows 7 installed on the PC so I cannot install beside of windows 7 at all.  Thanks.  Jeff

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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2014, 03:35:02 pm »
shmitzr1984,
I have a different problem.  Peppermint 5 install does not recognize that I have windows 7 installed on the PC so I cannot install beside of windows 7 at all.  Thanks.  Jeff
That is odd. I'm just taking a shot in the dark at this point, I noticed in your previous post that you had a GPT file system setup for Windows.  I've only ever used NTFS for Windows, I wonder if GRUB 2 is having issues with the GPT file system...

WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.


Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
256 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38761 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0000e0ea

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1  4294967295  2147483647+  ee  GPT

In a previous post you had three NTFS partitions on your primary drive.
Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0fe76135

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048     3074047     1536000    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2         3074048   592367706   294646829+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       592371712   625139711    16384000    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

I don't have extra hardware to test, but it might be worth investigating if the GPT file system is supported in GRUB 2.



I just looked and GPT is just a partition table type, not a file system...  :-[  So if you've formatted your drive with a NTFS file system I don't really know why GRUB wouldn't be able to detect it.
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Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2014, 04:00:43 pm »
Hi jlschwartz, you're having some adventure.  I have to ask though.  How can Peppermint install next to Windows if Widows is taking up the whole disk?  I think that you need to make a decision on how large you would like your Peppermint partition to be.  Next thing to do is BACKUP!! I cannot emphasize how important this is.  This not because things are likely to go wrong.  It is just in case.  Ever heard of Murphey's Law   :D!   After you have BACKED UP, shrink the Windows partition so that the left over part is the size you want for the Peppermint installation.  Format this left over part to ext4.

Seeing you have Windows on one partition, you have the ability to make a further three logical partitions or, two before you have to use extended partitions to make further  partitions.  In your situation, I suggest that you also make a "swap" partition  that is twice the size of your RAM.  That gives you a total of three partitions: 1 for Windows, 1 for Peppermint and one for "swap". Once you've done this, I think you will be able to install Peppermint next to Windows.  I  hope this helps, good luck  ;)!!
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