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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2017, 04:20:04 am »
@spence
You beat me... :'(
My debut was on Netscape 4  :o

EDIT: Now running Pale Moon also on Peppermint 7
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2017, 03:58:58 pm »
My first "graphical" browser was Mosaic. Around the early 90's, before that it was all text.

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2017, 09:10:54 am »
I came across Waterfox yesterday, has anyone here used it? Its latest is the same version number as the latest Firefox, and it claims to have telemetry and data collection removed, along with a few other privacy-friendly additions/ removals.

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2017, 12:27:54 pm »
Hi N!

Never tried Waterfox
Although, my main PC runs Peppermint, I also like to use Void. You learn a lot with it, rolling release and very small community.
I remember that Void has refused to host Waterfox, see:
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/pull/7418

On the other hand they have also refused to host Pale Moon

EDIT: Although, in the case of Pale Moon, I got the feeling it had to do with the non-open source tools.
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2017, 12:46:25 pm »
OPERA UPDATE

I'm still happy as a lark with Opera, but I thought I should mention a caveat when using their free, unlimited VPN feature, day after day - 28.1 GB this month, so far.

Google (and their cohorts) are thoroughly confused. Their best guess is, I'm located in the Ukraine and speak Russian.

That's fine and dandy, until I try to buy something online. Some sites - no problem. But, any place that adds Google to the mix, such as their robot captcha, freaks out. Facebook, as an example, totally freaked out when logging in with VPN enabled  - took me weeks to recover my account. They would show baby pictures on my 400+ 'friends' accounts, and ask me to identify them. LoL! I finally did it, through sheer will and determination.

So, VPN is a double edged sword. Caveat emptor.

I've started using Chromium again, with appropriate extensions (Ghostery, uBlock Origin, ScriptSafe, et cetera) when ordering things online. Enough info leaks through that my accounts aren't flagged. And, I use Opera (with VPN enabled) for everything else.

Just saying...


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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2017, 01:55:35 pm »
Either way you're still running Firefox .. and usually an old (and possibly insecure) version at that.

This is what occurred to me when I looked at Pale Moon and IceCat, and Seamonkey had far too much stuff in it. Vivaldi and Opera looked promising, but their privacy policies and terms of service didn't reassure me. So Firefox it is!

Having used Firefox for several days in a row, I've noticed some issues that don't occur with Chromium. I use the same security/ privacy extensions on both, but on Firefox these interfere unpredictably with streaming music playback while Chromium can be relied on to stream correctly every time.

P.S.: This is not my first time using Firefox, but I did not previously have much set up by way of security and privacy. Ditto for Chromium (Chrome to be exact).

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2017, 02:02:18 pm »
Which extensions ?
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2017, 02:50:38 pm »
Which extensions ?

Privacy Badger (on both browsers)
HTTPS Everywhere (on both browsers)
uBlock Origin (on both browsers)
uBlock Origin Extra (on Chromium only)
Disconnect (on both browsers)
Disconnect Search (on Chromium only)
Decentraleyes (on both browsers)
NoScript (on Firefox only, but disabled/ removed for the purposes of troubleshooting)

I've tried using Firefox's restore option to figure out what interferes with playback, but after a certain point the results aren't consistent. Sometimes enabling/ disabling the same thing stops playback, at other times it doesn't. Probably need to go over the steps again.

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2017, 03:30:21 pm »
Can you give us an example of a site where audio playback doesn't work in Firefox ?
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2017, 06:45:13 pm »
I came across Waterfox yesterday, has anyone here used it? Its latest is the same version number as the latest Firefox, and it claims to have telemetry and data collection removed, along with a few other privacy-friendly additions/ removals.

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/

anyone tested it ? seems to be a better version of firefox.
I'm still using Opera, i don't use the VPN feature. I do use the AD Block one and it seems working just fine.


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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2017, 07:54:47 am »
Just got this link from the Void linux forum...

https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5

...a lot of good tips to make FF less invasive!

Will test in Void first  ;)

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2017, 09:14:02 am »
Nice find :)
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2017, 10:26:45 am »
Speaking of Opera, OperaSoftware was bought out last year:
https://phys.org/news/2016-07-chinese-consortium-opera-browser-mn.html

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2017, 11:42:39 am »
I'm still using Opera, i don't use the VPN feature. I do use the AD Block one and it seems working just fine.

The new, built-in Opera 'Snapshot' feature works a treat, too. Click, crop, capture to a file or copy to clipboard. Bada bing, bada boom.

I use this feature, all the time on LinkedIn - saves me hella steps.  8)

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2017, 04:43:09 pm »
Ok! I've tested/enabled all those options (https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5) in FF on Void linux and..., so far no issues ! That said, if you must have Netflix, you have to enable DRL content AND browser history ...
Could not really test this in Void, cause I'm running Void based on musl libC (https://www.musl-libc.org/) and not on glib C. Actually, that's one of the reasons why I'm running Void ! Musl doesn't work well with any proprietary apps, sorry
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