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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2017, 02:21:40 pm »
We're back to:-  sh*t off a chrome plated shovel (or a red anodised one that sings) is still sh*t.

Right !

Firefox and Thunderbird are built on the same architecture too, but they appear to be different, to the naked eye.

Supposedly, Opera has a built-in mail client, although I haven't tried it yet.  I'm perfectly happy with the Firefox mail client, once we got the notifications working.

I don't remember reading anything about a built-in mail client in Chromium .  Guess I'll investigate that now.

Maybe they shoehorned Thunderbird into Opera ?!?!  Wouldn't that be a hoot ?   :)
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2017, 02:57:41 pm »
I just can't handle the way any chromium based browser renders some stuff .. it's not an 'Opera' issue, it's a blink issue.

As I said, one day someone will build a perfect browser, but until then FF is the closest for me .. an Opera based on FF would probably come close.
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2017, 03:46:45 pm »
the only browsers i tried are FireFox,Chrome,Chromium and SlimJet. and i seriously can't see that much of a difference between them all...
The only annoying thing i hate was the chrome crashing in it's older versions but now it's fixed and working well.
Maybe  they have security managing differences i surely don't know about, i mostly visit secure websites anyway.

i'm running P8's default Chromium right now and have nothing to complain about.
i'll give Opera a try though, it seems like a solid browser.

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2017, 04:18:53 pm »
If someday I have to leave Firefox behind, it will be for PaleMoon...
...or maybe that does not classify as "leaving Firefox" , although I think it does...
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2017, 01:04:51 am »
I dunno..... I kind of float between Midori and Chromium .


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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2017, 12:52:41 pm »
The BBC have insisted that everyone now has to register and sign in to listen to their radio online - but only if they're using a UK IP address. The VPN proxy thing in Opera is handy for getting round that.

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2017, 02:33:18 pm »
Oh sure .. I might install Opera for the odd occasion, but it'll never (in it's current form) be my "go to" browser.
(and there's no way to make ICE support it :()
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2017, 03:15:33 pm »
https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,903.0.html

A good previous discussion on Alternative browsers, if you're still undecided

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thanks for reposting my browser discussion Zeb  8)

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2017, 07:49:51 am »
So Im gettting tired of all these default browsers Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, Opera what are the best ones that you have found

I like default as they work in my experience.

Opera in its day was alright but now is just another Google Chrome clone.

Vivaldi another Google Chrome clone but if you like settings its a great browser.

Slimjet another Google Chrome clone is OK but seems to always be updating to new versions every couple of weeks.

I have no complaints with Firefox 54 or Chromium browsers and prefer default browsers.

If you want an unusual browser give Dilo and Netsurf a test drive neither run any javascript but for simple browsing I have found to work well and run them using firejail sandbox.
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2017, 03:40:58 am »
I don't know how I missed Firefox's Pocket integration before, but now that I have noticed it, I don't like it one bit. I looked for ways to remove it but apparently it can only be disabled. Why would Firefox integrate a closed source application that collects a lot of your data without giving users the option to remove it? Seems an odd choice to make — and unpopular if some of the things I read are anything to go by!


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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2017, 08:08:08 am »
It's easy enough to disable pocket....

In the address bar enter:-
about:config
and hit Enter.

Accept the warning.

In the search bar, search for:-
extensions.pocket.enabled

In the main window, double-click
extensions.pocket.enabled
to toggle it's value to "false"

Done :)



In previous versions of FF you had to first hide the icon from the toolbar, then toggle "browser.pocket.enabled" to false (otherwise it would remain in the "Bookmarks" menu) .. but recent versions of FF remove it all for you if you toggle the newer "extensions.pocket.enabled" key to false.



Instructions for disabling pocket in recent versions of Firefox shown above ⇧⇧⇧

Instructions for disabling pocket in older versions of Firefox can be seen here:
https://www.ghacks.net/2015/05/14/how-to-disable-pocket-in-firefox/



If you also want to disable "Reader View" which is another feature I personally have no use for .. whilst in "about:config", toggle the "reader.parse-on-load.enabled" key to "false".
http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-reader-view-in-firefox/
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2017, 09:34:13 am »
PCNetSpec, thanks, those are the very instructions I referred to in my post when I said it can be disabled but not removed. It just seems like a weird decision on Mozilla's part.

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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2017, 12:26:58 pm »
Well, at least there's a choice.
Can we say the same about Chrome?
Maybe Pale Moon should be taken more seriously!

Otherwise, IceCat looks like a good option...
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2017, 05:06:56 pm »
Either way you're still running Firefox .. and usually an old (and possibly insecure) version at that.
(possibly in the same way Google showed Chromium clones were usually less secure than the real thing .. including the ones from the so called 'security' experts like Comodo)
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=704

Where browsers like SRWare Iron and IceCat state they remove suspect features from and add 'privacy' to Chromium/Firefox, they are usually things you can do yourself in the settings or with extensions .. and they're usually a few releases behind, so missing recent security fixes.
https://www.howtogeek.com/108384/6-alternative-browsers-based-on-google-chrome/

Along with possible security concerns Peppermint couldn't consider a browser (as the supplied default) that doesn't have an active repository for updates, and/or isn't open source, and/or would infringe licensing.
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Re: Best Browser
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2017, 06:50:11 pm »
Thank you for the long explanation, I only use Firefox.
But, since we are at it...
What are your thoughts about Midori?

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