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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2017, 04:09:50 pm »
The only people that should worry are those with something to hide.

Just in case you missed it, that was me being sarcastic ;)
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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2017, 05:08:03 pm »
The only people that should worry are those with something to hide.

Just in case you missed it, that was me being sarcastic ;)

Believe it or not I still hear that argument here.  But, since it's now impossible not to be creating data that is being scooped up continuously, one approach to greater anonymity might actually be to turn on all the faucets.  Don't stand out from the crowd.  Do NOT root your phone.  Just block malware, and then do your thing.  Turn on all the faucets.  If the powers that be want data, make sure you give it to them.  Just much sure you're producing tons of it.  Produce so much data that the sheer quantity of it all with make it all pointless, worthless, and overwhelming.

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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2017, 12:00:51 am »
It's illegal to be root on your own device? Really?  :o

It's a gray area in a lot of countries.  In the US, it's fluctuated between being legal and illegal. (It's currently legal, I think) Basically, it's legal in most countries if you're still using the phone in a legal manner.  IE: unlocking your phone to use software that is legally obtained but can't be run on your phone without unlocking it.  However, if you're unlocking it to do something illegal, then it's not legal.  So, " yes and no" is the answer.  ;)

However, some people also don't own their phones.  I own mine, I bought it outright.  I know some carriers provide a phone as part of a contract and, if you drop your service, you have to return it.  So, therefore, it's not yours.

I rooted my first Fire tablet just to install Firefox on it.  Some days, I wouldn't mind doing it again with my current Fire, because Silk is a pain and can't use extensions and some sites have out of control ads.  However, on my phone, I just use Firefox with uBlock Origin.  But, I never did anything illegal with the Fire.  It was just to add a browser that Amazon doesn't have in their Appstore (because they're idiots.)
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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2017, 05:50:54 pm »
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Google releases a new Android operating system every year, but most devices running the software use older versions. These phones do not get as frequent security and feature updates, a persistent problem for the company.  --Mark Bergen

Nougat share rises to double digits but so many Android devices still run KitKat and below

By Daniel Bader for androidcentral

https://www.androidcentral.com/android-distribution-numbers-july-2017

This is a good little article if you want to see, in terms percentage, of where your phone's version of Android is within the mix the millions of phones that are out there .  My phone is still running KItKat.
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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2017, 09:33:06 pm »
w00t !!!  Now, I need to thank YOU, perknh  ;D

Pretext:  I've been trying to find the magic combination for displaying emoji in Opera, on the LinkedIn website -- been driving me crazy for a week.

Solution:  I was reading the article that you posted, above, and suddenly it dawned on me.

Note to self:

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╰─➤  sudo apt-get install fonts-emojione-svginot
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╰─➤  sudo apt-get install fonts-twemoji-svginot
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╰─➤  sudo fc-cache -vfs
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Restart

Great article !  Worked a treat, Thx !

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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2017, 09:36:50 pm »
BTW, before you go searching, here's the thing that did the trick ...


https://youtu.be/zkr8wEEdWh0?t=2m18s


One finds fixes in the oddest spots, you know ?!?!?   8)

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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2017, 07:30:24 am »
When you download a rooting tool from the internet, you're trusting unknown programmers.

Highly Advanced SpyDealer Malware Can Root One in Four Android Devices

By Catalin Cimpanu, Security News Editor for Bleeping Computer.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/highly-advanced-spydealer-malware-can-root-one-in-four-android-devices/

No need to panic here, BUT this does show us that rooting from unknown sources can potentially cause problems.  Fortunately, I got it drilled into my head, when I started here with Peppermint (thank you, PCNetSpec!), that if you stay within the repositories, you're eliminating a lot of potential trouble.  Simple conclusion:  Since Android is still a Linux distribution (though a non-GNU, highly proprietarized variant of Linux), stay as much as you can within Android's own repository-- Google Play.  And, if for whatever reason you do need to root your device, root it from trusted sources. ;)
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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2017, 08:43:28 am »
I'm not sure comparing "Google Play" to the Linux "default repo" model is an accurate one .. AFAIK "Google Play" is full of proprietary code without the "many eyes" oversight.

But sure you're probably safer(ish) there than installing stuff from third party sites.
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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2017, 10:00:09 am »
I don't trust the vast majority of apps in Google Play, whereas I'm sure I can trust every piece of software in the Ubuntu repositories.  The reason: all you have to do is pay for your software to appear in Google Play.  There's nothing more to it than that.  I don't know if anyone at Google even looks at the software's code.  Ubuntu is quite the opposite.  You can't pay to have your software in there, and it's highly scrutinized before being made available for download.

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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2017, 05:10:42 pm »
We supposedly kept safe within Android's Play Store by a new security system Google calls Google Play Protect.  That said, I have no evidence that my phone is being protected by this program, but perhaps it is.  I guess this is as close as we're going to get to having "many eyes" watching out for mischief in Android. ::)
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Re: Google making cheap Android phones support its latest software
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2018, 09:17:36 pm »
My goodness, time goes by so quickly.  Google Go phones will be announced this week. :o

The first Android Go phones will be announced next week at Mobile World Congress

By Chaim Gartenberg for The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/23/17044296/android-go-oreo-edition-phones-google-mwc-2018-launch

And here is some more about Android Go from The Verge showing an interesting clip presenting Sameer Samat, a former VP of Android & Google play, and his thoughts concerning Google Go.



And this will be the first Android Go phone to hit the US markets.  It's called a ZTE Tempo Go phone/

ZTE Tempo Go costs $80 and is one of the first Android Go phones

By Joe Maring for androidcentral

https://www.androidcentral.com/zte-tempo-go


Who knows?  Maybe with the launching of Android Go, some mobile phones might start getting smaller again -- as is case with the Nokia 1 Android Oreo (Go Edition) featured here.  If so, that would be alright by me.  I only looking for a basic smartphone that's front pocket portable, stays up-to-date, and is affordable.   
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