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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2017, 04:14:27 pm »
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to run Linux "inside" Windows .. though I do get the other way around, but isn't that what WINE and VM's are for ?

I assume it's a natural progression.

First of all, they added BASH to CLI, so devs and admins could work on real servers, without closing winders.

Remember ?

Code: [Select]
╭─vindsl@Zugg ~  
╰─➤  lsb_release -a           
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Peppermint
Description: Peppermint 8 Eight
Release: 8
Codename: xenial
╭─vindsl@Zugg ~ 
╰─➤  powershell   
PowerShell
Copyright (C) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS /home/vindsl> lsb_release -a                                                 
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Peppermint
Description: Peppermint 8 Eight
Release: 8
Codename: xenial
PS /home/vindsl>

Now, they're adding Linux to the DE, so you can work on a real desktop, without closing winders.

MS called Linux "a cancer", not too long ago.  Maybe they finally got it, and it's metastasized  ...   ;)


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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2017, 04:24:31 pm »
Still not seeing why an admin or developer would want to be in Windows using Linux (with some problems from what I hear, but even without) over being in Linux using Windows.

I really don't see the point besides saying "look we can" but then I'm probably not their target .. then again I'm not quite sure who is, maybe Azure cloud (Linux) instance admins but I'm guessing they'd rather trust native Linux to admin Linux (I know I would in the same way I'd prefer Windows to administer Windows).
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2017, 04:35:07 pm »
One surprise in all this; Microsoft is more 'in love' with Linux than ever.

They actually will be offering three Linux distros in their winders store:  https://goo.gl/IEFOmQ

I was looking for the 1st April date,   ;)    it seems legit.    ??? 
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2017, 04:49:39 pm »
Anybody something useful to say about Linux SAMBA shares on a mixed network?  :o
Not me, but I've been wondering if having a Windows machine on the network is going to end up being a risk to Linux users, and how to mitigate that.

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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2017, 04:55:54 pm »
I'll crank up the lappy, join 'insider' again, and wait for the WSL updates.

I'm still having fun with SUSE, so I'll give it the acid test.   ;)

BTW, speaking of lappies, my Dell E6430 failed the 'road warrior' test. The 6-cell battery wouldn't last all day.

I ordered an OEM Dell 9-cell battery. 

I know articles like this are hype, but it's the same [proposed] battery I bought and same laptop I own:  https://goo.gl/tkXF9R & https://goo.gl/DF4MG2

If it lasts all day, I'll be happy, otherwise I'll add a secondary battery [battery slice].
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2017, 04:59:23 pm »
Anybody something useful to say about Linux SAMBA shares on a mixed network?  :o

In what respect ? .. this malware ?

I've not read anywhere that it runs on Linux .. I haven't heard that it definitely doesn't either but you can bet your bottom dollar if it were capable of breaching Linux network security and running itself (even as a user process encrypting just the home folder) the AV manufacturers would already be all over it to plug their wares ;)
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2017, 05:01:07 pm »
I suppose he means whether your Linux shares are getting scrambled too, if Windoze can access them.

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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2017, 05:04:29 pm »
^ Exactly...  ;)
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2017, 05:19:11 pm »
If Windows has anonymous write permission there (or is set up to automatically log on as a user with write permission) , then I'd assume so.

I can see no reason why (in the above circumstances) Windows wouldn't be able to read data there, encrypt it, then write it back.
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2017, 05:42:38 pm »
most people consider a 10 year car, is only fit for the scrap-yard.   ::)

I wish you'd told me that 8 months ago, you'd have saved me a motoring nightmare. Seriously, there's no need for that to be the case but I'm never buying a Japanese vehicle again.

Yep second hand cars, they bite.  ;)

With motorcycles, prior to my illness, as a project, (man shed, the last bastion of the male domain) I would buy a 10 to 20 year bike, stripe to last nut and bolt, respray, rebuild engine, the theme would evolve, usually as a roadster or cafe racer.   8)
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2017, 05:49:51 pm »
Yep second hand cars, they bite.  ;)

I just got a letter last week, they're recalling this vehicle to get an airbag fault fixed. Only 11 years after the car was made and 8 years after it was discontinued. WTF...
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2017, 05:56:16 pm »

Yep second hand cars, they bite.  ;)


I just got a letter last week, they're recalling this vehicle to get an airbag fault fixed. Only 11 years after the car was made and 8 years after it was discontinued. WTF...

Belated Customer Service   8)   That also saves you a few hundred quid (or bucks)   ;)
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2017, 06:01:46 pm »
Wonder why they don't just get rid of airbags and make car drivers wear a helmet if it's that unsafe in the tin box :))

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Might also cut down on the amount of phoning whilst driving.
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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2017, 06:09:15 pm »
That also saves you a few hundred quid (or bucks)   ;)
If only mate, the thing has cost me more in parts than it was to buy in the first place, through a horrible sequence of circumstances that could have killed me to bits - TWICE :D

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Re: FIT FOR PURPOSE
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2017, 06:10:01 pm »
Wonder why they don't just get rid of airbags and make car drivers wear a helmet if it's that unsafe in the tin box :))

OMG !!!  'Brother' thing, again.

I can't tell you how many times I've thought about actually doing this.

I was almost killed twice in car accidents, in the recent past -- rear-ended at high-speed by 'distracted' drivers.

In neither case, did the airbags deploy.  If I had been wearing a full-face helmet & visor, like my racing days, I wouldn't have had a scratch on me.