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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2017, 04:10:50 am »
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Does that make sense ? --VinDSL

Yes, it does.  It's called Opera beta in my applications, and Opera beta.desktop in Pluma.  There's a space between Opera and beta.desktop.

VinDSL, do you see anything here below that I'm doing wrong?  The darn thing still doesn't resize for me. :-\

By the way, does your Opera Speed Dial now show Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp?  If so, this browser could be a game-changer for my wife and me.  Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp only are the only affordable ways I know of (other than magicJack or Skype) to communicate with people in Latin America.  (And, for whatever reasons, the younger generations do not appear to be gravitating towards Skype.)

Thank you,

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Code: [Select]
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Opera beta
GenericName=Web browser
Comment=Fast and secure web browser
TryExec=opera-beta
Exec=opera-beta --window-size=1600,900 %U
Terminal=false
Icon=opera-beta
Type=Application
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml_xml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;application/x-opera-download;
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;

Name[en_US]=Opera beta

[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=New Window
Exec=opera-beta --new-window
TargetEnvironment=Unity

[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=New Private Window
Exec=opera-beta --private
TargetEnvironment=Unity

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2017, 05:27:56 am »
Hi perknh,

I really don't know if this makes any difference, but it would not hurt to try the following. In your .desktop file remove the two lines near the bottom that each read:

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TargetEnvironment=UnityYou do not need these when the Peppermint desktop (I suppose that they might be needed when working with the Unity desktop environment).

I hope it works.  :) If not, just add the two lines again in the same two places they were found.  8)

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2017, 11:39:57 am »
I really don't know if this makes any difference, but it would not hurt to try the following. In your .desktop file remove the two lines near the bottom that each read:

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TargetEnvironment=UnityYou do not need these when the Peppermint desktop (I suppose that they might be needed when working with the Unity desktop environment).

I hope it works.  :) If not, just add the two lines again in the same two places they were found.  8)

That's a terrific observation, Slim.Fatz, and it makes a lot of sense.

I did what you said, and, after that, I also tried replacing Unity with Peppermint, then Xubuntu, and, finally, Xfce, but, unfortunately, I had no luck.  That said, removing, or swapping out, Unity with something else, along with changing my screen size numbers, seems to be what I need to do next.  Right now, I'm using my screen's resolution as my numerical base, but, honestly, I don't know what that has to do with my screen's size --other than for visual clarity.  How to figure out my screen's physical size, along with changing the Target Environment --that's what I think I need to learn how to do next.
 On the other hand, perhaps I'm overthinking this. :-\

Thank you, Slim.Fatz, and VinDSL, for aiming me in the right direction. ;)

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2017, 05:22:40 pm »
If anything, the TargetEnvironment would be LXDE .. but it'll really make no difference.

What exactly is the problem here (too busy/lazy to read this entire topic to figure it out) ?

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Actually, if you're having a problem with something, can you please raise a support topic for it .. this is "General Discussion" ;)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2017, 10:27:03 am »
Uh-oh !

I *think* I'm smitten ...

Thanks a lot, perknh   :P

Correction:  I'm officially hooked on Opera !

Haven't started Chromium in days -- haven't even thought about it, actually.

Parting is such sweet sorrow ... 8)

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2017, 01:04:18 pm »
So right when I'm considering Chromium, everyone else has moved on .. story of my life ::)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2017, 01:35:05 pm »
Chromium is good enough.  I like what Opera did with it -- that's all.

It's easy to match Opera's look n' feel to the Peppermint-Dark-7 theme. 

Dittos for matching Thunderbird, Guayadeque, and Conky ...   ;)


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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2017, 05:19:56 pm »
Ah, so right when I'm about to move on.....

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2017, 03:56:54 am »
I read a couple of old threads, in these forums, concerning Flash on Opera. 

For shiggles, I decided to test Flash in the Opera 46 dev release.

Gotta say, the options are rather compelling ... and, I'm a Flash hater. 

'Click-to-play' might be a viable compromise ...   8)





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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2017, 05:11:28 am »
Here's an episode from last Friday's ScienceFriday, with Ira Flatow, discussing the new law.  The program then gives a link 
on how to setup a VPN
.  I haven't had a chance to dig deeply into VPNs at this point, but I hope the link will be helpful.
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2017, 07:43:51 am »
I read a couple of old threads, in these forums, concerning Flash on Opera. 

For shiggles, I decided to test Flash in the Opera 46 dev release.

Gotta say, the options are rather compelling ... and, I'm a Flash hater. 

'Click-to-play' might be a viable compromise ...   8)




Odd that yours says you don't have the latest version of flashplayer .. mine says I **do** have the latest version, yet it still says I have 25.0.0.127 :-\

Opera Developer 46.0.2556.0

But yeah, click to play is a MUST .. and something I always do via flashblock in FF
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2017, 05:36:45 pm »
@ perknh

Thought you might find this interesting ...    :)

I've been busy, building my Dell E6430 Peppermint/'10' 'Road Warrior' lappy.  I need to have it finished by the first week of May, for a maiden voyage to Vegas. 

I ordered an OEM backlit LED keyboard yesterday.  It should be here in a couple of days -  and that'll be the last hardware upgrade I'll be doing to it.

On the software end, I've tried three different vers of Opera, and truthfully, the only one I like is the dev release - currently at 46.0.2567.0.  I like it so much that I purged Chromium and Firefudge from this machine.

Anyway, I just got done doing the 'window-size' trick in Opera-Developer, and it didn't work - just like you.  So, I tried twice and thrice, and still no difference  :-\

Then, it dawned on me that I was clicking the Opera button that I had placed on the panel, last week, pre-haxor.  When I tried the Opera button in the Whisker Menu, it resized just fine.  So, I removed the Opera button from the panel, and replaced it with a new copy from the Whisker Menu ... Bingo !





I wonder if that's the same problem you've been experiencing.  Which button were you clicking ?

BTW, I added the 'Internet' category to the Opera-Developer .desktop file, just to be sure.  Here's what it looks like:

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[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Opera developer
GenericName=Web browser
Comment=Fast and secure web browser
TryExec=opera-developer
Exec=opera-developer --window-size=1100,739 %U
Terminal=false
Icon=opera-developer
Type=Application
Categories=Internet;Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml_xml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;application/x-opera-download;
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;

[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=New Window
Exec=opera-developer --new-window

[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=New Private Window
Exec=opera-developer --private

Okay, back at it ...  8)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2017, 06:01:57 pm »
Okay now I'm genuinely annoyed .. I must be loosing my touch, I couldn't break it when I tried .. normally something I have an unnerving knack for >:(
(you don't get good at fixing stuff sans that knack)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2017, 06:33:44 pm »
Heh, ikr ?   :D

I presumed when you add a link to the Xfce4 Panel, it simply links back to the Whisker Menu .desktop entry - but, now I *think* it  copy n' pastes the original.

I don't have time to do forensics, right now.  But, I'd be curious to see what's going on in the background.

I did a restart, and the panel button still wasn't picking up the haxored .desktop file - until I removed the button from the panel and added it again, post-haxor, via the Whisker Menu 'Add to Panel' option.


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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2017, 07:26:26 pm »
When you add a launcher to the xfce4-panel a .desktop file gets created in

~/.config/xfce4/panel/launcher-n/gibberish.desktop

(where "n" is a number)

(and "gibberish" is some random string of 11 digits)

You'll have to hunt through the "launcher-n" directories opening the .desktop files within until you find the one for Opera .. then make your edits to that file.

HTH :)
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