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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2017, 12:30:07 pm »
Think I might have found a practical answer to all the hysteria  8)

I downloaded/installed the Opera dev release, and I'm testing it as we 'speak'.  Opera has *FREE* VPN baked in ...

Last time I tried Opera beta, VinDSL, it was very, very buggy. (Actually Opera stable and Opera beta have been buggy for years.)  In my case I always had to keep minimizing my home page in order to make it fit my screen.  Also, the Peppermix-Dark-7 themes haven't worked well with Opera's bookmark's bar for a long time either.  All that said, how's that Opera dev working out for you?  Another friend suggested it to me as a privacy solution too --along with changing DNS providers and using DNSCrypt too, of course. ;)

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2017, 04:00:04 pm »
Last time I tried Opera beta, VinDSL, it was very, very buggy [...] (Actually Opera stable and Opera beta have been buggy for years.)  In my case I always had to keep minimizing my home page in order to make it fit my screen.  Also, the Peppermix-Dark-7 themes haven't worked well with Opera's bookmark's bar for a long time either.

Well, yes, I tried Opera [Chromium-based] when it first came out, and I hated it !  Not only was it buggy, but I was an Opera  12 fanboi  8)





I haven't run across anything that I would consider a bug, in the Opera 45 dev release, except the white-on-white text in the menu dialogs.  I super-hate that !  And, it doesn't exist on the stable ver. so maybe it's a fluke, or maybe they did it on purpose.  Europeans seem to like white-on-white text.

Anyway, you might want to give Opera another shot, and see what you think.

Dark theming seems to look/work just fine on my Peppermint 7 Respin desktop machine ...









Only complaint I have is the lack of my favorite extensions.  Maybe I'll download the Chromium vers and install them manually.   ;)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2017, 04:03:28 pm »
BTW, I was using Opera stable at work, today, via a VPN proxy server in Turkey. 

It was almost as quick as going barefoot -- hardly any lag at all !

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2017, 04:35:04 pm »
It's still Chromium based isn't it ?

Yet IIRC it doesn't support Chromiums --app mode, so can't be made to work with ICE

Is it open source ?

Is there a PPA ?
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2017, 04:42:21 pm »
That looks good, VinDSL.  Thanks for taking the time to share all those screen shots.  I appreciate it. ;)

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Only complaint I have is the lack of my favorite extensions.  Maybe I'll download the Chromium vers and install them manually.  --VinDSL

Have you seen this extension, VinDSL?  It's called the Download Chrome Extension.  I've always found it handy.

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9/


By the way, this conversation just took place on my local PBS channel.  I thought of you when I heard the arguments.  I suspect it hasn't played in Arizona yet.

How will new law blocking internet privacy rules affect you?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/videos/#211770

Thank you VinDSL.  I install Opera Stable via the command line.  We have the commands right here in Peppermint.  I'll just change the words opera-beta to opera-stable in the commands.  This should be the same as downloading directly from its site.  Maybe installing it this way would be more secure than going into the wild to find it. :-\

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It's still Chromium based isn't it ? --PCNetSpec

Hey, a question I can answer.  Yes, it is.  And although Opera is owned by a Chinese consortium, it still operates under Norwegian law.
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2017, 05:46:31 pm »
It's still Chromium based isn't it ?

Yet IIRC it doesn't support Chromiums --app mode, so can't be made to work with ICE

Is it open source ?

Is there a PPA ?

I'll need to research those.

After 24 hours, I decided I didn't want to run Opera every day, but damnit...

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2017, 05:47:29 pm »

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Only complaint I have is the lack of my favorite extensions.  Maybe I'll download the Chromium vers and install them manually.  --VinDSL

Have you seen this extension, VinDSL?  It's called the Download Chrome Extension.  I've always found it handy.

Now you did it !   :D

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Thanks, man !  All my Chromium extensions are installed, and working correctly. YaY !

Also, I switched my Opera VPN to Hermsdorf, Germany.  Now I'll be able to hear tunes, on the DJ site, that are blocked in this country.   :)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2017, 06:44:10 pm »
It's still Chromium based isn't it ?

Yet IIRC it doesn't support Chromiums --app mode, so can't be made to work with ICE.

This (from your images above) strongly suggests that it is still Chromium based:-


Is it open source ?

Is there a PPA ?

My GUESS to these two are that it's proprietary (at least the bits not owned by Google), and that's why they only distribute it pre-packaged via their own repo. Reinforced  by there being an EULA link under my red highlight in your pic.
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2017, 07:50:24 pm »
I'm gonna run with it, for awhile, now that I got my beloved extensions working.  It's like Chromium on ... well, you know.

This thing is a hoot !  Greetz from Deutschland ...




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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2017, 07:55:10 pm »
The VPN VinDSL is showing us looks interesting. :)

When I think of it, if some of us here to decide to use Opera, we've got to remember to enable Power User mode in Settings.  Why Opera tucks its advanced settings away, and why it makes us use the Konami code, I don't understand, but they do.

Here are the simple instructions to enable Power User mode in Opera.  Things are a bit hidden in Opera's settings.  Remember also to put a check in that box in the bottom left corner of Privacy and security to "[a]lways show power user settings."  That will make life using Opera a lot more convenient. ;)

This, by the way, is what I like about Opera:

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How do we protect your data?
We treat your personal data as required by law. We are a Norwegian company and we follow Norwegian data-security laws as well as other national legislation, as needed. We require that our suppliers successfully pass security assessments and prove their compliance with applicable laws and industry standards. --part of Opera's Privacy Statement

After seeing you guys working with the developer mode, I decided to install Opera beta again, but, in my case, I still have to resize it for my screen.  That bug never seems to go away.  ::)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2017, 03:51:41 am »
After seeing you guys working with the developer mode, I decided to install Opera beta again, but, in my case, I still have to resize it for my screen.  That bug never seems to go away.  ::)

Just haxor the .desktop file.

I need to adjust the window size, so I can turn my 29" Dell Ultra-wide monitor into [basically] 2x19" monitors. 

In my case, I want the browser window size to be 1276x1052, when I open any browser.

Here is the CLI switch.  Use it to determine the size you want:

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╭─vindsl@Boogaloo-5 ~ 
╰─➤  opera-developer --window-size=1276,1052


When you finally figure out the exact size you need, haxor the .desktop file.

Here's my 'opera-developer.desktop' haxor, as an example:

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[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Opera developer
GenericName=Web browser
Comment=Fast and secure web browser
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Exec=opera-developer --window-size=1276,1052  %U
Terminal=false
Icon=opera-developer
Type=Application
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml_xml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;application/x-opera-download;
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;

[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=New Window
Exec=opera-developer

[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=New Private Window
Exec=opera-developer --private

I got rid of the 'Unity' references in the 'Actions', too, to keep it clean ...  8)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2017, 05:13:15 am »
Greetz from Deutschland ...

LOL :))

I'm not knocking its use .. just thinking we can't possibly default to it.
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2017, 04:29:21 pm »
Uh-oh !

I *think* I'm smitten ...

Thanks a lot, perknh   :P


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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2017, 06:41:24 pm »
Hi VinDSL,

My screen's resolution 1600x900.  So I guess that's what I need to work with here.  I guess I'd be opera-beta --window-size=1600,900.  Are we talking about using gedit to straighten out my Opera-beta?  I found Opera-beta in .config, but I don't know what to do with it. :(

Uh-oh !

I *think* I'm smitten ...

Thanks a lot, perknh   :P

Good.  I've always known that Opera has all the potential in the world.  It looks like you're the guy who's discovered how to actuate it! :)

IMO, even though all the Nordic countries put the rest of the world to shame when it comes to privacy rights, I'd say if there's an Icelandic option in that VPN, Iceland would be the safest bet of all.  But, of course, having a browser from Noway is a safe bet too. ;)

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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2017, 08:32:17 pm »
My screen's resolution 1600x900.  So I guess that's what I need to work with here.  I guess I'd be opera-beta --window-size=1600,900.  Are we talking about using gedit to straighten out my Opera-beta?  I found Opera-beta in .config, but I don't know what to do with it.

The .desktop file should be in '/usr/share/applications'

The full path to my .desktop file is '/usr/share/applications/opera-developer.desktop'

I'm not sure what your file is called -- probably 'opera-beta.desktop' or 'opera.desktop'

I navigate to the '/usr/share/applications' folder using the File Manager, right-click on a blank area and 'Open as Root'. Then, right-click the Opera desktop file and choose Open with Pluma.  Finally, I make the changes, save, and then test the Opera window size by simply starting Opera, from the main menu.  If it still doesn't look right, close Opera, wash, rinse, and restyle.

Does that make sense ?