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I woke up to this report on Imgur this morning.  I didn't post directly from Imgur because of the language used in the Imgur article wasn't family-friendly for our forum.  Anyway, just when I thought things couldn't get much worse regarding privacy and the Internet, I find this news today:

Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers

By Jon Brodkin for Ars Technica

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/senate-votes-to-let-isps-sell-your-web-browsing-history-to-advertisers/

And:

US Senate Just Voted to Let ISPs Sell Your Web Browsing Data Without Permission

By Mohit Kumar for The Hacker News

https://thehackernews.com/2017/03/isp-to-sell-browsing-data.html#author-info


And, finally, the fine print of the bill:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/34/all-info
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I cannot think of any response to this that's appropriate to post on the forums. >:(

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I cannot think of any response to this that's appropriate to post on the forums. >:(

The bill is outrageous and unconscionable.

A VPN/Proxy (or Tor) seems to be the only "cure", although outlawing that could be their next step...  ::)

That would not surprise me. 
[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

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Everything is so screwed up here in the USA  :-[

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US Senate Votes in Favor Of ISPs Selling Consumer Data to Advertisers

Thank you, GNULINUX, for finding and posting JP Buntinx' excellent article.  It's the best article I've seen for what is currently happening to US. :o

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[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

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Sigh, I'm paying $130.00 a month for Frontier Fios. isn't that enough for them to turn a profit.
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Good god, what do you get for that $130/mnth ?
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Good god, what do you get for that $130/mnth ?

I know, right?  We're paying less than that for phone, internet and TV, and the Internet is really fast (for me, anyway.)

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Mark one up for "Rip-off Britain" then, I pay £35/mnth for phone (unlimited landline calls) / TV (which is really pretty rubbish) / and unlimited 76Mb-down 19Mb-up fibre broadband.

That's about $44 USD

That makes a pleasant change, sommat that's possibly cheaper over here :D
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2017, 06:53:54 pm »
100 mbps up and down as well as VOIP which is pointless because all I get is telemarketing calls thanks to Frontier/Verizon selling my number to everyone on the planet.
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2017, 07:37:46 am »
100Mbps up would be nice (for uploading say the ISO images), but not really "necessary" .. $130 still seems somewhat excessive from a British perspective.

Maybe it's the one (and probably ONLY) thing that's cheaper over here.

It's hard to find a direct comparison, but
https://www.hyperoptic.com/offers-broadband-and-phone/
do a 100Mb/100Mb connection (with phone) for £28 (£38 after the first discounted 12 months)
or
1Gb/1Gb  connection (with phone) for £48 (£63 after the first discounted 12 months)
http://www.sky.com/shop
and Sky TV (which aint the cheapest) is £22 for just TV

It's just nice to know there are exceptions to "rip-off Britain" :)
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2017, 11:19:59 am »
To make things worse my test was more like 60/60

However, I'm also running a nearly 6 year old Intel i5 2500k but this has a 1gbps ethernet connection directly to the router.

To put this into perspective I the fastest I download content is about 5.5MBps via Steam or a really swift repository connection.
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2017, 11:33:16 am »
I have a (semi-rhetorical) question about the topic title .. would this include allowing Microsoft to sell user data gathered by Windows telemetry ?

If so, I can see them serious butting heads with the EU data protection laws.

Or is it limited to US ISP's
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Re: Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2017, 11:50:05 am »
People are misunderstanding this ... as usual  8)

Under the [dis]guise of net neutrality, Obama and company reclassified broadband carriers as 'common carries', which they aren't, and switched authority from the FTC to the FCC.

What the Senate did was move authority back to the FTC, where it belongs.

This is as good an explanation as any, if one wants to spend a few hours following the bouncing ball:    https://goo.gl/9sbEAS

Sadly, ppl prefer to rely on fake news sites, and social media pundits ...