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Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« on: March 20, 2017, 06:33:10 pm »
Re-installed P7 (after my BIOS update clanger) last night and experienced a few woes:

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failed install: 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot

After a few choice...wtf...exclaimations..! I went old school and installed in Legacy mode, currently feeling decidedly anti M$***e and becoming allegetic to their B$.

The fresh install has taken 15 seconds of the "systemd-analyze time", once all the usual tricks were applied. Bonus...!

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Startup finished in 2.575s (kernel) + 10.767s (userspace) = 13.342s


While installing extra software via cli, noticed this warning: "W Possible missing firmware for module i915_bpo when updating initramfs"

Had a root about the web and found the following sites:

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http://askubuntu.com/questions/811453/w-possible-missing-firmware-for-module-i915-bpo-when-updating-initramfs#811487

https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/firmware

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FAQ

2. Q: I am seeing the following error message, what do they mean and what should I do in response?
   
   W:Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1.bin for module i915
 
   A: This warning can be safely ignored. This list contains all the firmware for all platforms even if you are running in a non-supported platform.
However, before installing the missing firmware, use the table above to verify whether your platform is even supported.
For example, for a Skylake platform look for the 'skl' product code in the firmware name, like this: skl_guc_ver1.bin.

The intel-microcode in Synaptics is a 2015 model and I have the newer Intel Core i7-6700 & Intel Sky Lake Integrated Graphics.

Currently the computer boots up, graphics acceptable, no tears, video playback is nice and clean, ditto with sound, with no real concerns apart the slower than expected boot up time.

It would seem my worries were groundless, the learning curve continues, lol...!
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Re: Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 07:09:14 pm »
Okay I **think** I know what's causing this, and may need to release an updated 64bit ISO

If I'm right, installing in EFI mode, but without getting updates (or preferably without an internet connection at all) during the install then updating only AFTER installation should still work.

I'll free up an HDD and test tomorrow.
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Re: Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 08:15:06 am »
Okay fella,  8)

The couple of days I have had to evaluate things since the fresh install, everything is okay and functioning as expected, clean and crisp.

The boot-up is slightly quicker this time around in Legacy Mode. Previously used UEFI settings (with secure boot disabled).  This was pre-planned, as I tried different Debian distros on sdb, eventually settled on Sparky Xfce.   ;)

Have two computers, both i7, the cube uses the Haswell CPU and is noticeably quicker than the tower's SkyLake CPU...in boot up...?   ???

Debian 8 Cinnamon on sda and Peppermint 7 on sdb on the cube. (Both installed in UEFI mode). Peppermint 7 is freshly re-installed on the tower in Legacy. Three OS's is enough for the time being, P7 will probably need company on sdb.   8)

Unless you think I could benefit from UEFI allegedly great prowess. I still reckon legacy mode is MORE user-friendly for multiple installs.   :D
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Re: Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2017, 11:03:04 am »
Not really, there's no benefit I can see from UEFI .. but I've released a new 64bit ISO on the main site that fixed the GRUB install error.
(Peppermint-7-20170321-amd64.iso)
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Re: Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2017, 11:27:09 am »

Unless you think I could benefit from UEFI allegedly great prowess. I still reckon legacy mode is MORE user-friendly for multiple installs.   :D

I actually prefer UEFI mode.  For me, It gives better protection when distro hopping as too many distros out their, either don't play ball or down right fek up your system.   With UEFI I can press F8 at startup (on my rig) and choose what ever distro I want to boot too.

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Re: Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2017, 11:33:20 am »
You're right Zeb .. UEFI does give you bootloader protection on multiboot systems, as far as if one distro screws up GRUB it won't make all the others unbootable (it's only gonna kill itself).

Well spotted, I'd overlooked that :-[
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Re: Sweet & Sour or Sour & Sweet..?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2017, 12:02:01 pm »
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too many distros out their, either don't play ball or down right fek up your system.

Yep I agree Zeb, but I have had my fair share of problems trying to install a SECOND OS, in UEFI mode.   :D

Example: RPM's use vfat16 for their /boot/efi partition, whereas Deb based distros use vfat32.   ::)

"Never the Twain" springs to mind in hindsight. Fedora based and openSUSE.   :(    PCLinuxOS is more compatible as it uses apt-get tools & synaptic.    ;D

Never use RPM's LVM partitions as this mullers their boot-up and the boot splash is a rash of script updating needed. (Couldn't read it fast enough). ie centos then debian, nightmare.   :-\

The only solution I found as a work around was to install both separately in Legacy mode, so neither hooked onto each-others swap.   ::)

It takes a few attempts to get the current Fedora based installer to accept, boot (or /boot/efi), /,/var,/home, swap partition arrangement.   ;)
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