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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2017, 10:19:31 pm »
What exactly is the idea behind these apps, ScriptSafe and Canvas Defender? What is this canvas and why does it need defending? Explain as if I'm an idiot. :D I might be.
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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2017, 10:43:30 pm »
Both are bowser extensions designed to block HTML5 canvas fingerprinting which is essentially data mining via internet tracking. 

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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2017, 11:05:16 pm »
@Mac So whats the overall consensus? ScriptSafe, Canvas Defender, Canvas Fingerprint Blocker? I'm wondering now that I know about the threat, what do I do about it?
Whats your personal solution? Which extension/add on do you trust? I'm pretty confused on which one to choose myself. ScriptSafe isn't avail for Firefox, Canvas Defender has sketchy permissions, and legacy features, canvas fingerprint blocker's description has poor English grammar. Which to choose? ??? :-\
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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2017, 11:32:00 pm »
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So whats the overall consensus? ScriptSafe, Canvas Defender, Canvas Fingerprint Blocker?
I'm not sure there is one. 

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Whats your personal solution?
Don't have one, as such.  Internet tracking is impossible to avoid and I refuse to give in to paranoia.  I stay behind a hardware firewall, use OpenDNS and exercise common sense.  If I want/need to surf anonymously I use Tails / Tor and a couple of others things I will not divulge.    ;)

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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2017, 11:38:23 pm »
Hi kimbopeppermint and mac,

I'm still learning my way around Firefox, but this one looks interesting.  I've read that it's better to mask a canvas fingerprint than to block it completely.  I like that this one is open source too.

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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2017, 12:20:06 am »
But @Mac if you don't tell me your secrets how will I browse anonymously as effective as you?  :'(
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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2017, 04:14:56 pm »
@VinDSL

I'm taking a break from ScriptSafe.  It's been interfering with too many sites I visit --and that's only with canvas fingerprinting disabled!  Now I'm disabling JavaScript on a per site basis --esp. ones that refuse to use https, or petition me for money too often.  Hey, there's only so much moola to go around. ::)

I'm back now to only two security/privacy extensions  --Privacy Badger and HTTPS Everywhere. 

I wasn't crazy about KB SSL Enforcer which is why I'm back with HTTPS Everywhere --don't know if I really need it though.  It seems to be quite limited in scope --targeting only a few big name sites.  Not sure, but I may it drop that extension sooner or later too.  :-\

I'm discovering that the default tools within our browsers can protect us quite well if they are enabled.  Why these tools are not enabled by default is a whole other question.
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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2017, 07:35:36 pm »
@VinDSL

I'm taking a break from ScriptSafe.  It's been interfering with too many sites I visit --and that's only with canvas fingerprinting disabled! 

Heh !  ScriptSafe is brutal, isn't it !   Goes right for the jugular ...

That's what I love about it - it's the challenge  - war of the wills, and all that.  Little bastard isn't getting the best of me !  LoL !   :D

BTW, I've been running the Xfce4 task manager (Task Manager 1.1.0) on one of my monitors, most of the day.  I'm actually testing ConkyWX 6.0, and watching what it's doing in the background.  But ...

As it turns out, Chromium stole my attention, after a few hours of watching it ...

First of all, it makes me paranoid that Chromium stays running in the background, after you close it, by default.  I fixed that in the 'System Settings' (chrome://settings) => Advanced Settings => System.  Uncheck "Continue running background apps when Chromium is closed".  Don't know what they're up to, but I don't like it.

Also, Chromium is set to autofill credit card info, by default.  Don't like that either.  I like autofill, but credit cards ... really ?!?!?  How lazy and stupid can one be ?

That's a little harder to nix.  In the Experimental System Flags (chrome://flags)  Do a 'search' (Ctrl-F) for 'credit card' and disable any section that contains them.

Need to get back to testing Conky.

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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2017, 07:57:40 pm »
L-I-E-D !  I'm back ...  ;D

I started thinking, you're just the kinda guy that might be interested in this sleuthing stuff.

If you want to see what you're machine is doing, while your head is turned, install the Xfce4 Task Manager, config it like this, and watch it for a few hours.

Think you'll be surprised.  And, I don't mean watch it for 5 minutes.  Give it a couple of hours, so you can pattern the perps and catch them in the act.

Makes the "Lightweight" LXTask manager look like a toy ! (To be fair, that's the whole point of lightweight apps, I guess)



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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2017, 09:01:41 pm »
If you want to see what you're machine is doing, while your head is turned, install the Xfce4 Task Manager, config it like this, and watch it for a few hours.

Okay, VinDSL, will do.  Do I need to disable, or uninstall, our default Peppermint 7 Task Manager first? :-\

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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2017, 10:37:06 pm »
Okay, VinDSL, will do.  Do I need to disable, or uninstall, our default Peppermint 7 Task Manager first? :-\

No need to uninstall anything, perknh.

Matter of fact, you can run them both at the same time, if you want to do an A-B comparison.   ;)


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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2017, 11:37:07 pm »
Okay, VinDSL, will do.  Do I need to disable, or uninstall, our default Peppermint 7 Task Manager first? :-\

No need to uninstall anything, perknh.

Matter of fact, you can run them both at the same time, if you want to do an A-B comparison.   ;)

Okay, this should be fun.  Thank you, VinDSL.  :)
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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2017, 07:44:18 am »
I was planning on going with the xfce task manager in PM7 (or was it 6 :-\), but IIRC there was a font colour issue somewhere in it or something.

Might look into it again for PM8.
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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2017, 09:23:15 am »
Might look into it again for PM8.

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Re: ScriptSafe instead of Canvas Defender?
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2017, 10:12:21 am »
I love a ton of the utils and "doodads/doohickies" from Xfce, but weirdly I don't particularly like the "full" Xfce environment so much.

It's good, but it's slightly on the heavier side, and less modular than LXDE which is a pity.
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