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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2017, 01:38:54 pm »
I tend to agree with travis82, lxtask is minimal but functional .. if users want something heavier (even if only a bit) they can install whatever they choose.

The Peppermint ethos dictates we don't make software choices for our users beyond what is necessary .. in fact I'd be more inclined to do away with a task manager altogether if I didn't consider it pretty necessary for the vast majority.

A few kilobytes may not sound like much, but if we did that with ALL packages.....

That said, show me a function of another task manager that the vast majority of users would consider "necessary" and I'll certainly consider it .. but you'll have to tell me the exact name of the package, "system monitor" doesn't tell me much ;)
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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2017, 06:30:09 pm »
I specifically mentioned gnome-system-monitor in my first post, and there is a package with that name in the repositories.


The part I find necessary is the network history graph. As far as I'm aware, lxtask has nothing like it. I've spent about 2 days looking for a way to monitor my transfer after first installing Peppermint (my first GNU/Linux distro ever actually).
First I looked for something inside XFCE, because I didn't want to pull dependencies(I probably had too much reading on KDE/Gnome incompatibility for my minuscule level of Linux experience). I accidentally discovered that Cinnamon/Unity/Gnome/XFCE/LXDE are built using GTK and quite cross compatible, and settled on gnome-system-monitor.

The application I wanted to substitute was Windows Task Manager, in it's Windows 8 incarnation:
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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2017, 06:54:01 pm »
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I specifically mentioned gnome-task-monitor in my first post

Sorry I missed that :-[

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The part I find necessary is the network history graph.

Yep, I can see the network graphing might be useful to a limited few .. but as I said our ethos doesn't generally allow us to load everyone with stuff only a few will use .. if on the other hand it's MORE functional and the same weight (give or take) I might be convinced, so I'll take a look.

I have a funny feeling though that I looked at gnome-system-monitor previously (as I did xfce4-taskmanager) and ruled it out .. but I can't for the life of me remember why :-\

Glad you found what you needed though :)
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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2017, 06:06:12 am »
Will PM8 be a LTS Release? or Did I misunderstood about LTS releases?
Will I be able to upgrade from PM7 to PM8 without re-install?

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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2017, 09:27:08 am »
PM8 will be an LTS release, albeit a shorter-longterm one ;)
PM is built on Ubuntu LTS, specifically PM7 and PM8 is/will be built on Ubuntu 16.04. They will reach EndOfLife simultaneously in 2021.

I don't know if you'll be able to upgrade between them without reinstalling(ask PCNetSpec, it's up to him), but any upgrade would be minor and to PM specific packages only, as the rest of the OS is updated from the same Ubuntu Xenial repositories
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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2017, 04:24:05 am »
Some laptop users use their machine at home and in the office or at a favorite coffee shop that makes proxy settings relevant. At the moment I miss this feature in P7. Maybe I am wrong but you need to set environment, set apt and reboot (or logout at least) to have new proxy settings work. I do not know how other products solve this but I remember an old application in Windows XP that you could have different locations set and define proxy, default printer even default home page  in your default browser for each location.

I understand that this is not much a Peppermint issue, not even trivial. Just for the record, an application for automatic proxy setting application (e.g. depending on your IP address) might be useful for Peppermint users on the move.

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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2017, 05:56:35 am »
Just a wish an an idea: It would be great to make the font rendering out of the box as good as possible and include some high quality fonts (if the licensing makes that possible). After all, text is what we are looking at most of the time.

The icons too: It would be great to have a nice icon set right after the installation. Maybe faenza?
http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228

I didn't really like the default background and the plymouth background in Peppermint 7. Maybe it would be possible to use something lighter in complementary colors. Something that includes a blue sky. ;)

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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2017, 12:51:53 pm »
Hi, guys.
What about LXDE-components in PM8?
Will they be replaced by LXQt ones?

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Re: PM8 ideas?
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2017, 02:00:48 pm »
There's really very few LXDE components left in Peppermint, that said AFAIK LXDE is not about to disappear any time soon .. so the plan is NO ;)
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