PM8 ideas?

[PCNetSpec]

I tend to agree with travis82, lxtask is minimal but functional .. if users want something heavier (even if only a bit) they can install whatever they choose.

The Peppermint ethos dictates we don't make software choices for our users beyond what is necessary .. in fact I'd be more inclined to do away with a task manager altogether if I didn't consider it pretty necessary for the vast majority.

A few kilobytes may not sound like much, but if we did that with ALL packages.....

That said, show me a function of another task manager that the vast majority of users would consider "necessary" and I'll certainly consider it .. but you'll have to tell me the exact name of the package, "system monitor" doesn't tell me much

[Pikolo]

I specifically mentioned gnome-system-monitor in my first post, and there is a package with that name in the repositories.


The part I find necessary is the network history graph. As far as I'm aware, lxtask has nothing like it. I've spent about 2 days looking for a way to monitor my transfer after first installing Peppermint (my first GNU/Linux distro ever actually).
First I looked for something inside XFCE, because I didn't want to pull dependencies(I probably had too much reading on KDE/Gnome incompatibility for my minuscule level of Linux experience). I accidentally discovered that Cinnamon/Unity/Gnome/XFCE/LXDE are built using GTK and quite cross compatible, and settled on gnome-system-monitor.

The application I wanted to substitute was Windows Task Manager, in it's Windows 8 incarnation:

[PCNetSpec]

I specifically mentioned gnome-task-monitor in my first post

Sorry I missed that

The part I find necessary is the network history graph.

Yep, I can see the network graphing might be useful to a limited few .. but as I said our ethos doesn't generally allow us to load everyone with stuff only a few will use .. if on the other hand it's MORE functional and the same weight (give or take) I might be convinced, so I'll take a look.

I have a funny feeling though that I looked at gnome-system-monitor previously (as I did xfce4-taskmanager) and ruled it out .. but I can't for the life of me remember why

Glad you found what you needed though

[harishpathangay]

Will PM8 be a LTS Release? or Did I misunderstood about LTS releases?
Will I be able to upgrade from PM7 to PM8 without re-install?

thanks,
harish pathangay

[Pikolo]

PM8 will be an LTS release, albeit a shorter-longterm one
PM is built on Ubuntu LTS, specifically PM7 and PM8 is/will be built on Ubuntu 16.04. They will reach EndOfLife simultaneously in 2021.

I don't know if you'll be able to upgrade between them without reinstalling(ask PCNetSpec, it's up to him), but any upgrade would be minor and to PM specific packages only, as the rest of the OS is updated from the same Ubuntu Xenial repositories

[mracz]

Some laptop users use their machine at home and in the office or at a favorite coffee shop that makes proxy settings relevant. At the moment I miss this feature in P7. Maybe I am wrong but you need to set environment, set apt and reboot (or logout at least) to have new proxy settings work. I do not know how other products solve this but I remember an old application in Windows XP that you could have different locations set and define proxy, default printer even default home page  in your default browser for each location.

I understand that this is not much a Peppermint issue, not even trivial. Just for the record, an application for automatic proxy setting application (e.g. depending on your IP address) might be useful for Peppermint users on the move.

[Fritz74]

Just a wish an an idea: It would be great to make the font rendering out of the box as good as possible and include some high quality fonts (if the licensing makes that possible). After all, text is what we are looking at most of the time.

The icons too: It would be great to have a nice icon set right after the installation. Maybe faenza?
http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228

I didn't really like the default background and the plymouth background in Peppermint 7. Maybe it would be possible to use something lighter in complementary colors. Something that includes a blue sky.

[Peter]

Hi, guys.
What about LXDE-components in PM8?
Will they be replaced by LXQt ones?

[PCNetSpec]

There's really very few LXDE components left in Peppermint, that said AFAIK LXDE is not about to disappear any time soon .. so the plan is NO

[DARKBOW923]

There's really very few LXDE components left in Peppermint, that said AFAIK LXDE is not about to disappear any time soon .. so the plan is NO

I think we can make the tottaly spanish (and the rest of languages) traduction of all peppermint 8.... )i can help traducting but no programming  i thinked this because not tottaly but are very apps, menus and similar on peppermint who don't have a launguage traduction..
Bye!

[Pikolo]

This might be too hard to implement, but would definitely be useful:

introducing a per application notification cooldown

Doing it for the XFCE power manager would be enough. The current situation on my laptop, is as follows:
If I turn notifications off. I get no warning when my laptop is about to die due to being out of power.
If I turn notifications on. I get about 2 hours of "Fully charged"/"Charging" notifications in row when my laptop is charging the last few %.
I get no notifications on full screen apps(VLC watching a movie for example).

I'm proposing the cooldown, because the stream of "Charging"/"Not charging" notifications makes me want to turn them off... and when I do that, I forget to turn them on afterwards

[PCNetSpec]

There is an Xfce update that adds this to the notifications settings:
https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2016/09/05/preview-per-application-settings-and-do-not-disturb-mode-in-xfce4-notifyd/

I've successfully compiled it in Peppermint 7 and it works well .. problem is, there's no way to get it to build without adding some dependencies not available in 16.04, so there's no way to get it to build as a package on launchpad for xenial and I don;'t want to add zesty packages to Peppermint 8 .. this means the only way I could get it into Peppermint 8 would be to manually add the pre-compiled binaries to the Peppermint 8 ISO image, something I'm not keen to do as people like access to the package source code.

I may have another go at seeing if it can be modified to work with existing dependencies, but I doubt it.

I could possibly build an "off repo" standalone package for you though after PM8 is released and give you a link .. or help you to compile/install it.

[scifidude79]

With long term support for five years, it would be nice if Ubuntu would keep up with newer versions of a bit more of their software than they do.  Just saying.  This seems like something that would benefit XFCE users in a lot of Ubuntu-based distros, but there's the wait until next year for it to hit an Canonical repository for a stable release. 

[Peter]

Well, what about Nemo in PM8?
There is a version without cinnamon's dependencies.
Will it be included in realease?

[PCNetSpec]

Peppermint has had Nemo as the default file manager since Peppermint 6 .. there are no plans to change that