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Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« on: September 04, 2016, 10:22:49 pm »
Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly:
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20160905#peppermint
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 11:53:45 pm »

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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 02:07:47 am »
Jesse Smith still doesn't fully get what Peppermint is all about.  The penny hasn't fully dropped.   There's no mention of the hybrid desktop environment and the reasoning behind it.  Hell, the images show that it's not standard LXDE.  While it's good he mentioned the Software Manager and Synaptic.  He completely missed the inclusion of the convenient newbie friendly metapackages.  There's too much emphasis on Peppermint being web app driven.  Rather than it being a lightweight distro, that offers its users additional flexibility and the freedom of choice.  In one paragraph, Jesse is hesitant about web app integration, (although he'll be using them daily, one way or another).  He seems to have a rather backward and timid view of Cloud based technology.  Then in the next paragraph, he's extolling the virtues of the Ice tool.  I think this confusion is because Peppermint is different and doesn't follow the generic paths that other distros do.  Don't get me wrong, reviews like this are good as they're generally favourable.  They're also very blinkered IMHO. 
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2016, 08:47:15 am »
Jesse Smith still doesn't fully get what Peppermint is all about.  The penny hasn't fully dropped.   There's no mention of the hybrid desktop environment and the reasoning behind it.  Hell, the images show that it's not standard LXDE.  While it's good he mentioned the Software Manager and Synaptic.  He completely missed the inclusion of the convenient newbie friendly metapackages.  There's too much emphasis on Peppermint being web app driven.  Rather than it being a lightweight distro, that offers its users additional flexibility and the freedom of choice.  In one paragraph, Jesse is hesitant about web app integration, (although he'll be using them daily, one way or another).  He seems to have a rather backward and timid view of Cloud based technology.  Then in the next paragraph, he's extolling the virtues of the Ice tool.  I think this confusion is because Peppermint is different and doesn't follow the generic paths that other distros do.  Don't get me wrong, reviews like this are good as they're generally favourable.  They're also very blinkered IMHO.
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2016, 09:29:33 am »
Nope, he doesn't get it at all.

Also, he said we're running LXDE.  Really?  I didn't know that.  Because, you know, when I look at the bottom of my screen, I don't see LXPanel.  Nor do I seen PCManFM when I open the file manager.  (etc., and so on)  Literally, because we don't use those components.  It's a hybrid desktop.

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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2016, 09:50:33 am »
Jesse has been a VERY good friend and advocate of Peppermint so I'm not going to slag him off .. but I agree he seems to have been 'off the ball' a little on this one .. weird because he's 'got it' before, even though he didn't 'personally' use cloud stuff he still advocated Peppermint's non-cloud virtues and highly recommended it to others in previous reviews.

In this one I was a little disheartened by the way it only mentions in the last line, kind of as a throw away comment that Peppermint doesn't "have" to be a cloud distro .. sadly a lot of people won't read that far. :(

We do carry baggage from the term "cloud hybrid" that was initially used in Peppermint marketing (something I always thought a mistake) where people got hung up on the word "cloud" .. which is why I'm making a concerted effort to only ever mention "cloud" as an OPTION these days, and trying to concentrate more on "pre-installed app free", "user choice", and "customisability" on the websites .. hopefully it'll override the baggage eventually.

Great comment by Pikolo though .. thanks Pikolo :)
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2016, 12:45:58 pm »
Counts to 10 and reminds self NOT to read user comments  >:(

Too much misinformation given out just because they don't like it.  Grrrrr
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2016, 12:56:59 pm »
Too much misinformation given out just because they don't like haven't tried it.  Grrrrr

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I actually don't mind those that TRY it but don't like it as long as they say why, it's those that slag us off from some kind of (usually incorrect) "notion" that annoy the hell outa me.
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2016, 01:25:31 pm »
Counts to 10 and reminds self NOT to read user comments  >:(

Wise policy.  Most comments on DWW are people talking out of their @$$ about things they don't understand and/or have absolutely no knowledge of.  Every now and then there is an informed comment, but they are few and far between. (much like YouTube)

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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2016, 03:53:47 pm »
Peppermint: Standing Out From the Cloud.  I'm certain I've read that somewhere.  Ha!
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Re: Peppermint 7 reviewed in DistroWatch weekly
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2016, 04:07:15 pm »
Hi mac, it's good to see you, hypothetically speaking.  How's it going  ;)?
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2016, 07:45:40 pm »
Great!  Thanks for the greeting!  :D
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2016, 11:03:14 pm »
Peppermint: Standing Out From the Cloud.  I'm certain I've read that somewhere.  Ha!

Me too.  Can't quite put my finger on where, though... ;)

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2016, 11:07:42 pm »
Do my eyes deceive me ?   :o

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Yay, the mac is back .. how ya doing my southern cross toting 'rebel' friend ? .. all's well I hope :)
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