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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2016, 07:09:16 pm »
Last time I booted a hard drive it took about 5 minutes ......... for my foot to stop throbbing.

C'mon, someone had to say it :)
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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2016, 07:46:54 pm »
Bwahahahahaha !   I know the feeling   :D

I just got done shoehorning a mobo (last out/first in) into my Small Form Factor Dell.

I felt like booting it a few times, too ...

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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2016, 07:57:07 pm »
Last time I booted a hard drive it took about 5 minutes ......... for my foot to stop throbbing.

C'mon, someone had to say it :)
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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2016, 05:32:32 am »
So I should be timing it from when the last no signal light goes out till Peppermint is up on screen correct? If so I'm at about 1 minute ten seconds and my niece's computer is at about 1 minute forty seconds.

I'd normally time it from the GRUB screen disappearance to the login screen (or desktop if you set auto login) .. one minute plus does seem a little excessive, but then I'm using SSD's everywhere and boot in about 6 seconds (I can't for the life of me even remember how long an average Linux distro boots from a HDD).

different hardware will be different depending on what drivers need to load (and obviously HDD and CPU speed).

Would be nice if others said roughly how long their systems take to boot (and whether SSD or HDD) for comparison .. please be truthful, this is NOT a boot speed competition, more a check to see if something is amiss in Peppermint or if alynur just has slow booting hardware.

Morning All - posted my bootup times in my earlier post in this thread on Aug 17th. My hardware specs are:
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System:....... Kernel: 4.4.0-34-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   System: Dell product: Inspiron 1501
           Mobo: Dell model: 0UW744 Bios: Dell v: 2.6.3 date: 12/07/2007
CPU:       Single core AMD Turion 64 Mobile MK-36 (-UP-) cache: 512 KB
           speed/max: 1600/2000 MHz
...........
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (24.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_HM060HI size: 60.0GB
So to summerise - before I made any modifications bootup on Pepp 7 was 77 secs+
The fastest I have made it happen is about 45 sec (give or take a couple of secs) - that was with btrfs-tools & samba removed & apparmor disabled (see my earlier post for details)
FWIW when I was on Pepp 6 bootup was 10-15 secs, from memory  :( (although I understand there has been major changes with Pepp 7, systemd for example)

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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2016, 06:26:02 am »
Would those experiencing slow booting would like to attempt switching back to upstart-sysv ?

This would be totally experimental so I cannot guarantee it's reliability, in fact I can't guarantee it won't screw your system .. all I can say is I've switched between upstart-sysv and systemd-sysv (and back again) a few times without issue.

The only thing that I've noticed is when switching to upstart-sysv, lightdm doesn't automatically get started so requires a small workaround.
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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2016, 07:07:53 am »
Appreciate your offer Mark but for me that will be a 'no' I'm afraid - this is my daily, in fact only driver, & I'm not prepared to accept that risk - sorry. I can live with 30-45 secs extra at boot - so I'll shutup now  ;)

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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 12:23:13 pm »
Ditto fo me PCNetSpec, I had major problems creating a DATA partition, I don't even want to mess with the system control. And since my boot time is down to about 50sec in my computer and my niece's well, they don't know the difference, I'm calling this good and I'll try to be happy for the rest of my life. Thanks for all the help.  ;D
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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7(SOLVED)
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 08:04:26 pm »
Might not be necessary .. on the other forum I'm awaiting feedback from someone who we switched from networkmanager to WiCD in preparation for switching to upstart-sysv and he **seems** to be suggesting it's speeded his boot time.

Once I verify this, you guys can try it if you like.

If you're interested, here's the topic:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=12919.0
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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7(SOLVED)
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2016, 03:11:48 pm »
Might not be necessary .. on the other forum I'm awaiting feedback from someone who we switched from networkmanager to WiCD in preparation for switching to upstart-sysv and he **seems** to be suggesting it's speeded his boot time.

Once I verify this, you guys can try it if you like.

If you're interested, here's the topic:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=12919.0

Hi PCNetSpec, isn't this post concerning wireless connection? My internet connection is ethernet cable only, no wifi or bluetooth. I've already removed all the bluetooth related packages listed in Synaptic Manager.
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Re: Excessively slow startup in Peppermint 7(SOLVED)
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2016, 04:23:39 pm »
networkmanager still controls wired connections too .. though it's probably not important now the guy has said switching to WiCD only seemed to speed up booting for a single boot.
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