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Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« on: August 04, 2016, 05:20:06 pm »
I have LibreOffice installed in my Peppermint7 LiveUSB on my laptop.
I have LO spreadsheet files on another data USB mounted on my laptop.
I can locate, locate, work on these, and ultimately save them back to the
data USB.

What is unusual in this instance is that I cannot locate the data USB using
the file management system within LibreOffice itself, nor can I figure out
how to adjust LibreOffice to have this capability which I normal have and
expect in similar Linux LiveUSB configurations.

In this regard, the LO file manager seems to expect (only?) remote file
services ranging from 'Google drive' to 'Windows share'. I do not intend to
operate 'in the cloud', just from within the laptop itself. I admire this
new SSB feature, but I don't feel the need for it yet.

I would appreciate some hints on how to adjust things in the old-fashioned way,
and I don't know where to start. TIA

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 06:43:28 am »
Here's a remedy; spend 140 Mb and install the LibreOffice metapackage.

I thought using base, calc & write would suffice to give me all the LO
capability I needed. Apparently not. Having installed the metapackage,
my complaints about the built-in file mgr have gone away.

Not likely this is the most efficient solution.

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 06:57:05 am »
Hm, yeah.  When you said you had LibreOffice installed, I assumed you meant the whole meta package.  Though, I don't know why the individual packages don't have that function.

Have you tried Abiword and Gnumeric?  Abiword is a standalone word processor and Gnumeric is a standalone spreadsheet, no need to install other programs.  They're designed for people who don't need the "everything" approach of LibreOffice.  They're also supposed to have almost the same file format capabilities as LibreOffice.

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 08:46:59 am »
Open the USB stick in nemo and access it once .. this will mount it .. now you should be able to browse it in LO
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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2016, 10:18:44 am »
Thank you both for your responses.

I expect using the metapackage is overkill in this situation. But there are
so many other packages that are brought-in by metapackage that it might take
some time to discover just which one or two dependencies might solve my minor
file management quibble.

I also expect my LiveUSB usage of Peppermint may be of some annoyance if the
main thrust of Peppermint is intended more in support of ChromeBooks and
Site Specific Browser applications. Peppermint does adapt itself well to my
uses, it should be noted and my quibbles are minor and ideosyncratic 

@scifidude
I have some previous programming efforts already invested in LibreOffice spread-
sheets and text documents. Almost the same problem as with proprietary, in that
past efforts get locked in by their unique formats. Otherwise Abiword and/or
Gnumeric would likely serve as well or better on new projects.

@ PCNetSpec
What I was trying to avoid was using another program to start LibreOffice.
I was dissatisfied in requiring any file manager to do what I expected LO
to do for itself. I do slightly prefer either Thunar or PCManFM to nemo, but
that was not my concern in this posting.


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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2016, 10:35:29 am »
You could automount your data USB at boot, if it's the same one you use all the time.

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2016, 10:36:25 am »
Really?  I thought the default file formats for LibreOffice were open document formats, which can be opened by any program.  But then, I don't really know much about file formats and it sounds like you clearly do.

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2016, 01:24:16 pm »
You could install 'usbmount' maybe

Quote from: Synaptic Description
This package automatically mounts USB mass storage devices (typically
USB pens) when they are plugged in, and unmounts them when they are
removed. The mountpoints (/media/usb[0-7] by default), filesystem types
to consider, and mount options are configurable. When multiple devices
are plugged in, the first available mountpoint is automatically
selected. If the device provides a model name, a symbolic link
/var/run/usbmount/MODELNAME pointing to the mountpoint is automatically
created.

[EDIT]

The other option would be to wait a day or so and I'll be posting a tutorial about replacing nemo with pcmanfm as the default file manager.
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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2016, 01:50:01 pm »
Thanks for your responses

@scifidude
I am assuming, but I have not proven this, but I would be surprised if
Gnumeric is a smaller program that it will properly handle
all the various subtleties of a larger and more complex program.

What I require is an application program that will allow me to contiuously
change the structure and parameters of a relatively complex personal
spreadsheet. I don't want to start all over re-programming the spreadsheet
to suit a new application program unless I absolutely must.

@murramint & PCNetSpec
My problem, which has gone away now, was the inability of LibreOffice
by itself to recognize and load-in mounted media. LO couldn't see my
Windows partition if I mounted it, nor any attached and mounted usbs.
Some dependency or dependencies beyond base, calc & rate were required,
I don't know which, specifically, but I would bet it's fewer than the
whole gamut contained in LO metapackage.

The liberties I have taken in adding and replacing programs in Peppermint 7
are beginning to pinch, I must admit, I set aside 2.4 Gb for persistence
and with all my tweaking, I'm up to 2.0 Gb now. I'm not a practiced hand
at  re-mastering.
 
« Last Edit: August 05, 2016, 02:01:57 pm by utu »

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2016, 03:11:01 pm »
See if
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get cleangets you any space back
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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2016, 08:10:22 am »
See if
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get cleangets you any space back
This looks like a good idea, might recover as much persisence as a third of the material I've added.
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This also prompted me to see if anyone on the forum is using 'snaps' as an alternative to remastering.
I don't get any results back from using the forum search using snaps as a keyword.  Any thoughts on snaps?

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2016, 09:06:33 am »
Hi utu,

My thoughts concerning snaps are that it is best to forget them and stick to installing your software using the Synaptic Package Manager;)

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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2016, 10:02:10 am »
Hello Slim.

Thanks for your comments.
You could be right on this, of course.
Here's where I think this might have some appeal:

PM7 has a neat, small iso slightly less than 1 Gb.
If you want to add LibreOffice to that, this is another 1015 Mb in persistence.
If that were instead available for ~287 Mb squash-file, that would achieve
the effect of re-mastering without all the hassle, not to mention all the
necessary real-estate used in re-mmastering.

The mechanism of snaps is quite similar to using Synaptic, only the terms
used are different.

Also FYI, PM7 Synaptic already has the snap daemon, snapd available to tinker-
with. I've added snapd to my PM7 LiveUSB and I'm digging into the following
references if you become interested.

https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/libreoffice-5-2-0-beta2-as-a-snap-package/
https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2016/06/16/a-third-of-a-libreoffice-snap/


Best Regards.
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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2016, 10:55:38 am »
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Re: Locating local media off-line with LibreOffice
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2016, 05:13:21 am »
Just in case you're still interested, here's the tutorial for swapping nemo for pcmanfm
https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,4063.0.html
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