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Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« on: July 25, 2016, 01:33:04 pm »
Hello Peppermint,

I had had an odd thing happen this afternoon with my computer.  The computer wouldn't shut off, but, instead, the orbiting circle around Planet Peppermint just kept spinning and spinning and spinning.  But there was no harm done.  I used our R E I S U O method to turn off the computer, and since then everything has been working fine again --including powering off.  :)

This is a report --nothing more.  ;)

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« Last Edit: July 25, 2016, 02:38:38 pm by perknh »
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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 02:23:50 pm »
That usually means systemd is waiting for something to happen .. it'll time out after 2 minutes and continue to shutdown

If you want to see what it's waiting for, hit the Tab or Esc key.
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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 02:24:00 pm »
Hi perknh

Mine has done that a couple of times.   I put it down to "sh!t appens"

Computers are complicated things

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 02:25:44 pm »
Systemd aint helping .. IMHO it's WAY overly complex .. though it is fast.
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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2016, 02:37:52 pm »
Thank you, gents.  This is good to know.  :)
[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2016, 09:14:34 pm »
Hi perknh,

Same thing happens to me occassonally too. As PCNetSpec said: systemd is waiting for something to happen or disconnect or whatever. It resolves on its own after about 2 minutes, but if you are in a hurry the old REISUO trick shuts it down quickly every time that it hangs.  ;)

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 11:12:37 pm »
Hi all
Is there anyway to decrease the 90-120 sec timeout ?
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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 11:27:44 pm »
Hi all
Is there anyway to decrease the 90-120 sec timeout ?
Regards Zeb...
Hi zebedeeboss,

Yes: by typing the REISUO sequence really fast ...  :D

Seriously though, if it is the network connection then I think PCNetSpec said you might try something like turning off / disabling your network connection before logging out / shutting down -- but that really is just a workaround (that might not even work) until a real solution is found.  >:(

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 11:47:46 pm »
Hi Slim.Fatz  ;D

This is on my main desktop rig - not a laptop. Never had hang ups like this before. So must be a systemd issue caused by something in 16.04?

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2016, 01:28:50 am »
Hi zebedeeboss,

Yes, perhaps it has to do with network shares? Do you have samba running?

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2016, 02:07:23 am »
Hi Slim.Fatz

No I don't and it does not connect to any other machines anywhere in the house.  I do of course have a number of ext USB drives and it is the latest Skylake technology which a number of distributions have difficulty installing on (Peppermint excluded) but including OpenSuse, Fedora and Solus.

Lets hope that any 16.04.1 changes that make there way here help...

Other than that is running like a dream... under 7 sec startup time from Grub as per VinDSL guide to measure it.

So all in all a minor annoyance  :) but one that would be nice to solve.

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Re: Computer Got Stuck Shutting Down Today [SOLVED]
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2016, 12:21:05 pm »
Well it'll be hard to solve unless you hit Tab or Esc and mention where it's hanging ;)
(ie. what's the last message onscreen)
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