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My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« on: May 30, 2014, 08:40:14 am »
Last night I tried installing, and running, Firefox Nightly build, and then, when that didn't happen, I tried the same with the raw build of Chromium for Linux x64.

What I realized shortly thereafter, I don't know how to install, and properly extract either of these two programs in order to run them.

I was given an array of options.  One option I had was to open the program within the terminal.  Another, I believe, was to open the program with gDebi, and there were many more options.  I tried executing Chromium's bootstrap, and Firefox's bin.  Nothing worked for me.

I'm clueless as to how to properly install and run a program that come in a zip file.

Any pointers? 

I'm stumped!

I'm not sure whether or not the link I had for the raw build for Chromium browser was too out of date, so I've decided to remove the link to that file.  Sorry, but nobody wants to deal with a potentially corrupted file.

But here is the link Nightly Firefox build I tried to download and run.

https://nightly.mozilla.org/

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« Last Edit: May 31, 2014, 09:14:42 pm by perknh »
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Hi perknh,
Download your nightly build and then double-click on the tar.bz2 package.  That should summon the Archive Manager.  Once Archive Manager displays the firefox folder, highlight it and select Extract (extract to wherever you like .... your home folder, for example).  Once extracted you can navigate to the "firefox" icon (choose Execute when / if prompted) and, after it checks  your addons, etc, it should start up for you.

A word of caution: these builds are not yet ready for prime time so you might want kick the tires a bit before using for productivity.  Just sayin'......
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new versions of firefox *may* also update the firefox database formats making it impossible to go back.

So best to backup your
~/.mozilla
directory first ;)

Why do you want the nightly build anyway ?
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My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 09:03:29 am »
Thank you Max and PCNetSpec,

I did manage to get Firefox Nightly to Plank on my desktop.  The problem is that today,  the following day, Nightly has vanished, and what I had on Plank yesterday reverted back to my current stable, up-to-date, Firefox 29.  Yesterday, I had Nightly, and I was delighted.  Today it is gone, and I am bewildered as to why.

I'm had no luck with that Chromium link at all, and I'm going to remove it.  I don't want the link I used to cause other people the same problems I have had.

So at this point, I've learned partially how to install and run a program that comes in a zip file within a Linux distribution.

Some of this stuff comes quickly to me, and other things take more time for me to learn.

Thank you both,

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for my part, you're welcome  ;)
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He wasn't thanking you .. some Max fella ;)
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Hey, I've been called worse.  A lot worse.   8)

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My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 03:49:59 pm »
Thank you everyone for trying to help me here.

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A word of caution: these builds are not yet ready for prime time so you might want kick the tires a bit before using for productivity.  Just sayin'......
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I learned something here about zip files, and I learned something else about raw builds -- that you never know what you're getting when you download one. And I'm going to change the title of this thread in order to reflect more accurately what we discussed here.

I was working with the wrong kinds of files if I wanted to explore this topic properly.

I may come back in the future to explore zip files more thoroughly within Linux.  I'm still quite foggy as to how to work with them.  Hopefully, I'll have a better example if, and when, that day comes.  For now, I'm keeping away from both zip files and raw builds for the meantime.  That's the lesson I've learned for now.

Thank you everybody for trying to help me here,  and sign me up for Club Max.  I'm in need of a vacation too.

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Re: My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2014, 04:03:05 pm »
ZIP files are just compressed archives .. so it's impossible to say "how to install the software they contain", that would depend on the contents of the archive.

it could contain a .deb
it could contain an .rpm
it could contain an executable binary installer
it could contain the source code that needs to be compiled

All would need to be treated differently after extraction from the ZIP file.
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Re: My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2014, 04:17:37 pm »
Thank you, PCNetSpec,

How should I terminate this thread so I don't send somebody else on a wild goose chase?

Everybody tried to help me here, and I was unable to tackle the different problems I had with the raw builds and that came within the zip files.  I didn't realize what I was getting myself into.

How do I terminate this subject.  It's really not solved, but I can't go any further with the subject either.

What would you do now?  How would you conclude and label it? 

Perhaps I should remove the topic.  I don't believe this topic will help anyone very much, but what you just said above is good for newcomers to know.  I know I didn't know all this about zip files before today.  Maybe we should let this topic rest here, but how should we label it?

Thank you.

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Re: My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2014, 04:34:39 pm »
Thank you, PCNetSpec,

How should I terminate this thread so I don't send somebody else on a wild goose chase?

Everybody tried to help me here, and I was unable to tackle the different problems I had with the raw builds and that came within the zip files.  I didn't realize what I was getting myself into.

I would leave the topic up, and come back to it when you have a little more experience under your belt. 

I can show you how to properly setup a raw trunk build for testing.  The trick is to keep everything separate from your regular install.

This involves changing paths in various conf files, and so forth and so on, but I'm afraid it would totally confuse you, at this juncture.

Give it some time to sink in...  ;)

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Re: My Difficulties With Zip Files And Raw Builds
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2014, 04:36:24 pm »
You could tag it as (ABANDONED) ;)
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