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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2016, 10:30:11 pm »
Okay VinDSL, I've moved thru all of what applies to my laptop's AMD A4 cpu and can not crack 20 second boot/reboot...  :(

for some reason, despite purging btrfs-tools I still get a "scanning for BTRFS" as the laptop reboots...  way better than my 55 to 150 second boot reboots on the old hard drive for sure,  ;) but... ... ...   :-\
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2016, 11:08:29 pm »
Good job, Spence !  That's one heck of an improvement IMO !

Maybe that's as quickly as it will boot.  Or, maybe you can whittle it down some more.  Time will tell, no pun intended.   ;)

BTW, I had to do 4 fresh installs, before I got this Dell crackin'.  Just saying ...


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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2016, 07:25:30 am »
for some reason, despite purging btrfs-tools I still get a "scanning for BTRFS" as the laptop reboots

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2016, 09:14:45 pm »
From my experience Peppermint is fast, the only things i've seen boot faster were:
Wattos, although it looks a lot like default lxde, and has somehow less software installed than peppermint, Lubuntu although the exprience is very meh, pretty much all of the "Run on ram" distros.
Pretty much everything else is on par or slower than Peppermintos as far as i remember

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2016, 01:46:27 am »
Hi 
My best start up time to date :)   Very Satisfying.  Thanks to the input of everyone in this thread.  On a clean install it's usually around 10-12 secs, still ridiculously quick but sub 7 is nice  :D



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zebedee@i7-zebedee ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: i7-zebedee Kernel: 4.4.0-43-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Z170 PRO GAMING v: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends v: 1601 date: 03/18/2016
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-6700K (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
           clock speeds: max: 4200 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 800 MHz 3: 989 MHz 4: 992 MHz 5: 800 MHz 6: 2184 MHz
           7: 3782 MHz 8: 1550 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 960]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz, 3440x1440@59.94hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 960/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 361.42
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA Device 0fba driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.0-43-generic
           Card-2 Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Network:   Card: Intel Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V driver: e1000e
           IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 31256.0GB (77.4% used) ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: N/A size: 256.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EACS size: 1000.2GB ID-3: /dev/sdb model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
           ID-4: /dev/sdc model: WDC_WD30EZRX size: 3000.6GB ID-5: /dev/sdd model: WDC_WD20EZRX size: 2000.4GB
           ID-6: USB /dev/sde model: Backup+_Desk size: 3000.6GB
           ID-7: USB /dev/sdf model: Expansion_Desk size: 5001.0GB
           ID-8: USB /dev/sdg model: Elements_107C size: 2000.4GB
           ID-9: USB /dev/sdh model: 10EAVS_External size: 1000.2GB
           ID-10: USB /dev/sdi model: Elements_107C size: 2000.4GB
           ID-11: USB /dev/sdj model: Elements_107C size: 2000.4GB
           ID-12: USB /dev/sdk model: Elements_107C size: 2000.4GB
           ID-13: USB /dev/sdn model: Elements_107C size: 4000.8GB
           ID-14: USB /dev/sdl model: FA_GoFlex_Desk size: 2000.4GB
           ID-15: USB /dev/sdm model: FA_GoFlex_Desk size: 2000.4GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 40G used: 8.1G (22%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 39.08GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 34C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 260 Uptime: 5 min Memory: 998.3/32096.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2016, 06:34:24 am »
Excellect !

Good job ...   :)

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2016, 07:30:32 am »
Aint SSD's wonderful things :)
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2016, 06:54:13 am »
 @VinDSL,
Have followed this thread and other ubuntu/lubuntu threads regarding improving boot speed/system reaction,this thread is brilliant!
I've managed to get down to 6-7 second boot-up time from cold boot (thereabouts)
Didn't bother with the bootchart though..un-necessary SSD writes and yes, I'm still cautious about SSD writes from years back OCD  ::)
Below is my systemd-analyze critical-chain results:

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$ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @7.067s
└─multi-user.target @7.067s
  └─postfix.service @6.835s +231ms
    └─network-online.target @6.824s
      └─NetworkManager-wait-online.service @1.327s +5.496s
        └─NetworkManager.service @974ms +337ms
          └─dbus.service @914ms
            └─basic.target @905ms
              └─sockets.target @905ms
                └─acpid.socket @905ms
                  └─sysinit.target @903ms
                    └─systemd-update-utmp.service @847ms +16ms
                      └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @817ms +14ms
                        └─local-fs.target @799ms
                          └─boot-efi.mount @751ms +47ms
                            └─systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-37A9\x2d8AEF.serv
                              └─dev-disk-by\x2duuid-37A9\x2d8AEF.device @640ms

Everything works as intended (as per my needs)
This has to be one of the quickest distros I've encountered given some surgery  :o
Next up is to disable IPv6 from system start, as I don't use this.
Thanks for the Info  8)

[Edit] VinDSL have you tried to remove nvidia bootsplash?
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sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-logo
This has worked on two of my devices  ;)
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2016, 08:08:09 pm »
Alrighty, then. ... Jokes on me !

I bricked my Dell 7010 machine, the other nght.  My bad !  I installed openSUSE Tumbleweed and saved the bootloader to MBR.

Hello ?!?!?!?    ::)

While I'm figuring out how to best convert the bootloader(s) back to UEFI, I decided to do a fresh Peppermint 7 install on my 32-bit Ubu test machine.  It's a former top-end gamer, circa 2005.  LoL !

I've been baking the Peppermint 7 install for the past 3 days.  It's coming along nicely, and I decided to take a break and see 'How Fast is Peppermint 7 ?' on this ancient iron.

Not too shabby !  It consistently boots in the 5-sec range with a 1 TB spinner, 2 GB RAM, and minor tweaking.

YaY  Peppermint 7 !!!


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System:    Host: Boogaloo-6 Kernel: 4.4.0-45-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   Mobo: N/A model: Canterwood Bios: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 04/09/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) cache: 2048 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3407 MHz 1: 3407 MHz 2: 3407 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G73 [GeForce 7600 GT]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV4B GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.0
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-45-generic
Network:   Card: Lite-On LNE100TX driver: tulip
           IF: enp2s12 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1015.8GB (5.8% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_HD103SJ size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Cruzer_U size: 15.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.8G used: 3.8G (41%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda11
           ID-2: /home size: 99G used: 50G (54%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda12
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda13
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 53.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 187 Uptime: 24 min Memory: 591.3/2014.0MB Client: Shell (zsh) inxi: 2.2.35
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2016, 08:45:59 pm »
5 seconds from a hard drive ?
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2016, 09:08:06 pm »
5 seconds from a hard drive ?

ikr ?

I saved several bootcharts.  They're all in the 5 sec range.

EDIT

It's an older drive - sat in my closet for years, for use as an emergency backup.

Evidently, it's not a sloucher ...

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The F3's results in our file transfer tests didn't disappoint. It was very fast at copying large files, writing them at 113.6MB/s and reading them at 103.6MB/s these are the among the fastest speeds you can get from a mechanical hard disk. It was also very quick at writing small files, with a very quick 87.6MB/s transfer speed. Its only weakness was reading small files, where it managed just 43.1MB/s a very sluggish score that we'd only expect to see from a 5,400pm disk.

Despite this disappointing score at reading small files, the F3 still excelled in our Crysis level loading tests. It loaded the large game level in just 33 seconds, which isn't far off the speed achieved by many SSDs.

SOURCE:  http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/storage/internal-hard-drives/49888/samsung-spinpoint-f3-1tb-review

I guess that's why I chose it.  Been so long, I can't remember ...   ;D

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2016, 03:44:29 pm »
I'm impressed :o
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2016, 04:44:58 pm »
I'm impressed :o

Yup, Peppermint 7 is awesome !  But, wait ... you mean the drive ?  Yeah, that, too !   :)

I always keep a few hardware items in reserve -- things you need today, not tomorrow, or a week or two from now --  button cell batteries, mobos, drives, power supplies, keyboards and so forth.  I don't like to wait until I'm in a pickle, stop everything, run down to the store, and get bent over the counter, you know ?

I doubt if I'll ever buy another spinner, but knowing myself, I probably spent some time researching drives before I bought this Samsung SpinPoint F3.  That's the benefit of thinking ahead -- decide what you want and wait for a 'Black Friday'  event, or whatevs.  Basically, I put them in my 'vault' and forget about them until they're needed.

BTW, guess what else I found in the closet; a SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W PS.  Those things used to be over USD $200.  I'm been running a Corsair HX520 since (like) 2008, which was based on the Seasonic M12 platform.  So I figured, I might as well get the real thing to replace it, but the damn Corsair won't die.

I suppose I should unbox it, and make sure the caps are still working.   ;D

EDIT

Checked Newegg, and I bought the Seasonic on 10-Nov-2012.  Must have been a 'Black Friday' remnant.  I got it for USD $99.
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2016, 01:58:27 pm »
I say it is fast enough if it was installed on a solid state drive.  You may have to recompile a few things to make get a speed boost because it is a generic kernel, but overall it is fast enough.

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2016, 11:12:50 am »
Hi everyone,

Nice thread here. What I would like to know is: why is nemo even listed in the Bootchart outputs? I am not using nemo to manage my desktop or show my wallpaper but it is still listed and consumes at least 670 ms. Where/how can I stop this from running? When I look at the graphs under Top CPU consumers: I find nemo in one entry (under lxsession) taking 710 ms and a little below that it is again listed as taking 82 ms:-\

In addition, any suggestions about how one might reduce the time consumed by Xorg?

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