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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2016, 11:50:40 pm »
Been playing HD YT videos for the last couple of hours.  Can't really complain about high GPU temps ...  :)


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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2016, 08:11:32 pm »
Bye, bye, nVidia drivers !  Gawd, I forgot how much I hate them   :P

First of all, my beloved Nouveau drivers run 5-6C cooler than the nVidia drivers on this fanless GT 710 card -- used to be the other way around.

Secondly, I spent 12 hours yesterday rewriting my Conky script, to make it compliant with Conky 10 -- only to discover that Lua wasn't displaying correctly. 

Turned out to be ... yes ... the nVidia drivers.  I went back to Nouveau drivers today and the LUA scripts displayed correctly.

nVidia dev ...



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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2016, 02:31:36 am »
The Plymouth startup screen went away after I installed those damn nVidia drivers.  The bastards replaced the Peppermint splash screen with their own branded screen.  Purging the nVidia drivers didn't restore the original splash screen.  ::)

Here's the fix ...

Open your terminal and type

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sudo apt-get install v86d

Then

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sudo -H pluma /etc/default/grub

Find this line

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#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480

and change for this one (of course choose your resolution)

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GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

Save file and type in terminal

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echo FRAMEBUFFER=y | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash
sudo update-initramfs -u
sudo update-grub

SOURCE:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/362722/how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2016, 02:53:29 am »
Hi VinDSL

That never happened to me when I installed the Nvidia drivers ?

Did you install them yourself or let the Additional Drivers Module do it ?

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2016, 02:58:24 am »
Did you install them yourself or let the Additional Drivers Module do it ?

Curiosity got the best of me ... and slothfulness. 

I decided to try the 'additional driver' crutch. 

I think it's the first time it worked for me, or not  ;D

EDIT

But wait,  are you saying the nVidia advertisement/logo/splash screen doesn't come up when you're booting ?!?!?
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2016, 03:05:54 am »
Hi
I can only think that Diff drivers work in diff ways, as I do remember my older 640GT card ending up with the NVIDIA splash
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2016, 03:13:34 am »
Interesting !

Splash screen aside, I use a couple of LUA scripts in my Conky script.  One is a background shader, and the other makes multi-color segmented bar graphs.

The shader wouldn't work at all.  No big deal, I don't use it that much any more.  But, the bar chart segs were solid red.  No low/medium/high warning colors.

I would blame it on the GPU, but Nouveau drivers handle the LUA code just fine.

There's been a lot of complaints about shite nVidia drivers over in Ubu testing ...

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2016, 03:19:41 am »
It just goes to prove there is still little interest by the graphics card makers to deploy solid good drivers for Linux

It is down to the community to make them.   I wonder if there are any community Linux drivers for Nvidia - remixes - tweaks  like you can get over on various Windows Forums. or are they just tweaking the generic Nvidia settings to suit their individual needs.  Nvidia is closed source, I believe, so how could they alter anything ?
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2016, 03:24:39 am »
It was a collaboration ...

LINK:  http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/nvidia-and-nouveau-ubuntu-14-04/1060

EDIT

Canonical has killed the disco site, above.   :o
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2016, 03:37:34 am »
HaHaHaHa

Off Topic - I simply love the way people ask about your Conky...   find the relevant thread and then go  "Nah..  you're OK thanks"

Which is exactly what I did the first time I thought yeah  that would look cool....

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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2016, 12:59:21 pm »
BTW, for those contemplating, or already running, Nouveau drivers, the trick is to get it off the 'pipe' !   ;)

Run the following from CLI

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inxi -Fxz
If you see 'llvmpipe' in your results, it's a performance killer !

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GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe

'llvmpipe' chews up a lot of resources, and will considerably slow down your display refresh rates and so forth.  It's a crutch, so to speak.

Installing 'nouveau-firmware' (and doing a reboot) usually takes care of it.

When you get it working optimally, the rendering string should read:

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GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV106


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sudo apt-get install nouveau-firmware
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2016, 07:41:34 pm »
The shader wouldn't work at all.  No big deal, I don't use it that much any more.

After saying that, I couldn't remember WHY I quit using the background shader.  Soooo, I played around with the LUA script today.

Still works (Nouveau drivers/firmware)...   8)



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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2016, 09:30:03 pm »
Very nice frosted glass effect :)
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2016, 04:42:01 pm »
I should have checked this before now, but ...

I've experienced a few hard locks since installing the nVidia GT 710 card. 

After switching from nVidia proprietary drives to Nouveau drivers & firmware, I wasn't convinced 3D accel was working. 

Since I did the above, I notice the mysterious line of blue dashes that momentarily appear before Plymouth have magically disappeared.

Anyway, so far so good (fingers crossed).

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vindsl@Boogaloo-4 ~ $ glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
direct rendering: Yes
vindsl@Boogaloo-4 ~ $ glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.369 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.023 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.023 FPS
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301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.023 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.023 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.024 FPS
^C
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vindsl@Boogaloo-4 ~ $ glmark2
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    glmark2 2014.03+git20150611.fa71af2d
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    OpenGL Information
    GL_VENDOR:     nouveau
    GL_RENDERER:   Gallium 0.4 on NV106
    GL_VERSION:    3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
=======================================================
[build] use-vbo=false: FPS: 508 FrameTime: 1.969 ms
[build] use-vbo=true: FPS: 635 FrameTime: 1.575 ms
[texture] texture-filter=nearest: FPS: 536 FrameTime: 1.866 ms
[texture] texture-filter=linear: FPS: 534 FrameTime: 1.873 ms
[texture] texture-filter=mipmap: FPS: 559 FrameTime: 1.789 ms
[shading] shading=gouraud: FPS: 528 FrameTime: 1.894 ms
[shading] shading=blinn-phong-inf: FPS: 527 FrameTime: 1.898 ms
[shading] shading=phong: FPS: 525 FrameTime: 1.905 ms
[shading] shading=cel: FPS: 525 FrameTime: 1.905 ms
[bump] bump-render=high-poly: FPS: 419 FrameTime: 2.387 ms
[bump] bump-render=normals: FPS: 619 FrameTime: 1.616 ms
[bump] bump-render=height: FPS: 567 FrameTime: 1.764 ms
[effect2d] kernel=0,1,0;1,-4,1;0,1,0;: FPS: 351 FrameTime: 2.849 ms
[effect2d] kernel=1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;: FPS: 194 FrameTime: 5.155 ms
[pulsar] light=false:quads=5:texture=false: FPS: 492 FrameTime: 2.033 ms
[desktop] blur-radius=5:effect=blur:passes=1:separable=true:windows=4: FPS: 172 FrameTime: 5.814 ms
[desktop] effect=shadow:windows=4: FPS: 255 FrameTime: 3.922 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 447 FrameTime: 2.237 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=subdata: FPS: 482 FrameTime: 2.075 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=true:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 445 FrameTime: 2.247 ms
[ideas] speed=duration: FPS: 544 FrameTime: 1.838 ms
[jellyfish] <default>: FPS: 345 FrameTime: 2.899 ms
[terrain] <default>: FPS: 45 FrameTime: 22.222 ms
[shadow] <default>: FPS: 484 FrameTime: 2.066 ms
[refract] <default>: FPS: 102 FrameTime: 9.804 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
[function] fragment-complexity=low:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
[function] fragment-complexity=medium:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
[loop] fragment-loop=false:fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=false:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 555 FrameTime: 1.802 ms
[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=true:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 552 FrameTime: 1.812 ms
=======================================================
                                  glmark2 Score: 462
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Re: How Fast Is Peppermint 7 ?
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2016, 11:28:17 am »
Now that we can talk about Peppermint 7, here in the threads ...

I've been playing around with a 'new' machine this week -- new to me, anyway. 

Actually, It's a  3 year-old Dell OptiPlex i5 7010 SFF business desktop refurb.  Hardly a fire breather !

Peppermint 7 beta was already flying, during testing, but after I did a fresh UEFI/Secure Boot install today, it seemed even quicker and faster than before. 

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vindsl@Boogaloo-4 ~ $ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "Installed in UEFI mode" || echo "Installed in Legacy mode" 
Installed in UEFI mode
vindsl@Boogaloo-4 ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host: Boogaloo-4 Kernel: 4.4.0-24-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   System: Dell product: OptiPlex 7010 v: 01
           Mobo: Dell model: 0WR7PY v: A01 Bios: Dell v: A13 date: 03/25/2013
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i5-3470 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3600 MHz 1: 1601 MHz 2: 1626 MHz 3: 1894 MHz 4: 1672 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Desktop GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-24-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
           IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: b8:ca:3a:93:3d:d9
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (2.3% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.8G used: 3.5G (38%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: /home size: 18G used: 73M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda7
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 180 Uptime: 15 min Memory: 668.5/15934.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
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To make sure it wasn't wishful thinking, I put it to the test using 'systemd-bootchart'.  Bootchart doesn't lie  ;D

Here's the resultant boot time (7.4 seconds) ...





I'll have to say, this is fastest boot time I've ever recorded, on any machine, at any time, on any distro.

And, there's no doubt in my mind that UEFI/Secure Boot is faster than Legacy Mode on this machine.

Anybody else notice a speed difference between these two boot modes ?

Hi, can you tell me how to use bootchart because in /var/log/bootchart I can't see anything...