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Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« on: April 28, 2016, 09:51:56 am »
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i7 6700k vs i5 6600k  8Gb v 16Gb v 32gb Ram

by choosing wisely I can get a better graphics card... but do I need one  -  I am not a gamer

Guidance and advise please, with your experiences on my next PC... I am lucky enough to have £1k at my disposal

Do I middle everything out and then spend £300 on a 2560 x 1400 27/29" Monitor (I already have a Benq 24" 1920x1080 and a 24" Samsung TV on HDMI and 1920x1080

The pc I have now is https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,1954.msg18925.html#msg18925 and is circa 2007/8 and I want the new one to be able to last as long.

This isn't slow "but it's old" lol       oh and before anyone says it... I AM going to but a new one, it will be OS free ready for Peppermint install   :D

Pitch in please - do you know of any great buys out there that just rock for a good price, you know those ones that only the people "in the know" realise are better buys that the top ones or so close as to make little diff but cheaper.
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2016, 10:28:56 am »
Well, it all depends on what you use your computer for, other than posting here, that is.  ;) The i7 will certainly give you a boost on all things, but do you do that much CPU intensive stuff?  Likewise, 8GB RAM is certainly plenty, unless you do really RAM intensive stuff.

For most people, a computer is a gateway to the Internet and used for web surfing, social media, video watching, etc.  For those things, as well as office work and whatnot, the i5 with 8GB RAM and whatever video chipset is plenty.  However, if you do anything like video editing, you want as much CPU and RAM as you can get.

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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2016, 10:16:14 pm »
@zebedeeboss, I'll tell you what I did in August 2011 on my current desktop.
  • Built it myself with a goal of modular updates that could be performed any time.
  • My goal was to "future proof" for 5 years with some upgrades

My original build info is here http://linuxbookpro.tumblr.com/post/9978532353/my-new-linux-build
It's interesting to see how my Linux preferences has changed over the last 5 years. Geeze I used Arch back then?

I chose everything for what I needed at that time and decided I didn't need more than a four core i5. An i7 didn't offer anything I actually needed for the price point.

First upgrade was adding an SSD in late 2012 as a Black Friday purchase.
Second was to replace my failing monitor in 2013 as a Black Friday purchase.
Third upgrade was adding an Nvidia 750ti as another Black Friday purchase in 2014  to game a bit more on Steam.
Fourth upgrade was a mechanical keyboard in 2015 I think I used a gift card.

Long story short I bought what I needed and decided on a top of the line i5, then upgraded as needed for my increasing demands. Because I built my own desktop I could do anything I needed and tended to wait for deals and save some money along the way.

If there is one piece of advice that I can give you. Watch some build videos on YouTube and build your own desktop. You'll get a lot more value for the money and the system will last longer.

If I decide to upgrade my computer this year I may just pop in a new CPU and Motherboard or just punch up the ram (not that I need too).

My advice would be buy the i5 unless you really want the i7.
Get a high quality motherboard with plenty of expansion options
Get a high quality  80+ Power supply that can handle 3x4 times what you need just in case you buy a graphics card later.
Buy only the ram you need unless there is a really good deal.
Upgrade components when needed or there is a really great deal.
Reuse components like old hard drives for extra storage.
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2016, 10:47:27 pm »
Thanks scifidude79 and josephd for your thoughts and input

32Gb dropped as OTT
i7 dropped as OTT for my needs

I am now looking at I5 6600k with 16Gb RM and a graphics card £200 or there abouts.  SSD a must but cant decide on standard or the M.2 variant
Build it yourself... You can virtually do that with most PC makers now - most offer a self configuration option, plus I have always felt it a pita returning a faulty graphics to one supplier a cpu to another  etc etc.
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 06:13:04 am »
If you're a gamer, just make sure the graphics card is nVidia:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
that said, AMD are going to be releasing some new drivers in the summer, and Phoronix reckon the open source drivers aren't that far behind any more .. better in some usage cases:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1604-amd&num=1
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2016, 09:49:06 am »
Nvidia, for the win.  I love my GTX950.  I know you said you're not a gamer, but other people reading this may be.  :)

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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2016, 10:26:23 am »
Well I have configured option 1  :D

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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2016, 08:34:23 pm »
My choice would be i5 6600k  8Gb.
With i5 processor and 8 Gb you have enough to see movies, play games, run all desktop  environments and a powerful PC.
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2016, 06:20:57 am »
Well I has configured option 1  :D

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That's a nice system.  The advantage of getting something that powerful is that you likely won't have to upgrade anytime in the near future.  :)

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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2016, 06:35:51 am »
Bung Peppermint on that SSD and it'll boot nearly instantly :)

Uber system that :)
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2016, 07:10:37 am »
That be a beast  :o.  That Core-i5 Quad Core Processor has plenty of guts and it has a good video card to go with it.  The SSD is plenty big enough to run a bunch of distros.  Peppermint will boot in a blink of an eye, there's no question about that.  Even the heaviest KDE distro would boot up like greased lightning from that.   You've on top of it all, the 2TB HDD for /DATA and swap.  As I said, that be a beast  ;)!!
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2016, 10:06:59 am »
PC ordered... now we wait - sigh!!!   it will never arrive soon enough  ;D   7-10 Days (will seem like 7-10 months) HAHaHa

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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2016, 10:21:19 am »
Well, sometimes you've gotta not listen to those little voices of reason.  I hope you enjoy it.  :)

7-10 days is rough.  Sounds like the cheapest shipping option.  I usually use that one too.

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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2016, 10:37:56 am »
Went with my heart not my head...

Which means what exactly ? .. you bought your missus one instead ?
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Re: Decisions Decisions Decisions on new PC
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2016, 12:28:18 pm »
Went with my heart not my head...

Which means what exactly ? .. you bought your missus one instead ?

HaHaHa, if only she were interested in computers... other than Faceache.    No... it means I messed with the system to buy an i7 not an i5 and even though I am not a gamer, I bought a more expensive graphics card so had to lose out on the 2tb Hybred drive.   I can use a 3Tb (7200) int drive from my current PC anyway.
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