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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2016, 04:00:10 pm »
Okay, now I get it. Yes, probably not a good idea to keep using an outdated Flash plugin.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2016, 04:17:21 pm »
Okay, now I get it. Yes, probably not a good idea to keep using an outdated Flash plugin.

murraymint, I rarely use Firefox.  I wonder if most people here who use Firefox install Flash or not.  I know, as time goes on, topics about Flash are beginning to lose their charm.  It seems to me there's constantly one problem after another concerning it.  Still, it may be a necessary evil, I don't know.  Perhaps I ought to install it for this fellow's computer.  I really don't know.  :-\

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2016, 04:42:29 pm »
There are pros and cons. Why not wait and see if he complains about not being able to watch videos on certain websites? Maybe he won't even need flash.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2016, 04:58:44 pm »
There are pros and cons. Why not wait and see if he complains about not being able to watch videos on certain websites? Maybe he won't even need flash.

Yes, I feel comfortable with that idea.  I won't install it unless he needs it.  That will be my approach.

Thank you, murraymint.  ;)

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2016, 05:34:05 pm »
Hi perknh, why not install Flash and then install a Flash blocker plugin.  That way Flash will be available but disabled.  If it's needed for example in YouTube or for the BBC iPlayer, an icon will appear on the screen inviting you to click to view/listen.  When the video or whatever is finished or closed, Flash is disabled again automatically.  This is what I do  ;).
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2016, 05:35:02 pm »
it's also what I do :)
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2016, 05:55:25 pm »
Hello, AndyInMokum and PCNetSpec,

Okay, I never knew you could have an on and off switch for Flash.  Now, believe it or not, I've got Firefox installed on MY computer.

So, would I run?

sudo apt-get install flash  EDIT: Bad Command:  It doesn't work.

to install Flash.

And, then, is there a particular plugin you'd recommend to disable Flash?

And, what about updates for Flash?  Any luck that they could be automatic?

Sorry for all the questions.  But maybe my friend can end up having his cake and eating it too if I play this one right. ;D

@murraymint:  We've got some new ideas to entertain here!  :)

Thank you,

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« Last Edit: April 29, 2016, 06:36:04 pm by perknh »
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2016, 06:11:54 pm »
Hello, AndyInMokum and PCNetSpec,

Okay, I never knew you could have an on and off switch for Flash.  Now, believe it or not, I've got Firefox installed on MY computer.

So, would I run?

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install flash
to install Flash.

And, then, is there a particular plugin you'd recommend to disable Flash?

And, what about updates for Flash?  Any luck that they could be automatic?

Sorry for all the questions.  But maybe my friend can end up having his cake and eating it too if I play this one right. ;D

@murraymint:  We've got some new ideas to entertain here!  :)

Thank you,

perknh
Yeah, that's the command, Flash will get automatic updates, at least it should.  I just use the Flashblock plugin.  In the Flashbock preferences, you might want to uncheck the disable HTML5 video.  That way, these will automatically start.   There are other Flash blocking plugins too.  Have a play around.   I find it a great solution  ;).
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2016, 06:17:32 pm »
Hi AndyInMokum,

This sounds good to me.  I'll install Flash and Flashblock, and then I'll see how this goes.

Thank you.

perknh

P.S.

Maybe I didn't do something right here:

I'm not sure what commands I should use.  Playing around I got this:

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
[close]
« Last Edit: April 29, 2016, 06:25:06 pm by perknh »
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2016, 07:34:40 pm »
If I remember rightly there's a third-party version of the plug-in that gets Flash from chrome and puts it into Firefox. You don't have to install chrome.

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sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
if you want to try it.

Actually I've no idea if this works on 32-bit. Sorry if it's a wild-goose chase...

Go to Tools menu, Add-ons and put Flashblock into the search field. I use NoScript but it doesn't seem to be available any more.
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2016, 08:26:45 pm »
Try:

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sudo apt-get purge pepperflashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

If doesn't update, try another browser like Opera.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2016, 12:14:56 am »
Hi AndyInMokum,

This sounds good to me.  I'll install Flash and Flashblock, and then I'll see how this goes.

Thank you.

perknh

P.S.

Maybe I didn't do something right here:

I'm not sure what commands I should use.  Playing around I got this:

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[close]
No, you install the plugins from Firefox's internal settings.  Navigate from the hamburger icon on the top right hand side of the browser to: Add-ons > Get Add-ons.  Type Flashblock in the search window.  The available plug-ins will be presented  ;).

Edit: Flashblock Plus is a nice one.  You get a nice little icon in the browser that you can access all your preferences.  I just checked it out on the BBC iPlayer Radio and it works perfectly.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2016, 12:41:40 am by AndyInMokum »
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2016, 03:58:33 am »
Good morning, Peppermint!

Let me just say from the start, you're all better men than me.  How you guys navigate this labyrinth of Firefox and Flash I will never understand.  And, secondly, why in the world we would even want Flash, especially with all the video-based advertisements out there, and the risks involved when running Flash, I will never understand that either. 

But, for a starter, am I right about these things?  We're working with Shockwave Flash here, and Adobe no longer supports Firefox, and there will be no automatic updates?  Am I understanding these things correctly?

If I am, I should just install Flash Block, and the sooner the better --issue solved!  Or are we talking about another kind of Flash here.  One that I know little or nothing about?

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2016, 04:33:57 am »
If you're not bothering installing flasplugin-installer (flashplayer for firefox) then there's no need for flashblock

personally I *do* have flashplugin-installer, but I stop flash from being loaded with flashblock .. it allows a more fine grained approach than the browsers flash 'switch' (which is more on/off for the whole page), flashblock blocks individual flash elements on a page from loading unless you click on them, so you can choose to say watch a flash video without allowing the flash adverts on the same page.
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2016, 04:58:16 am »

But, for a starter, am I right about these things?  We're working with Shockwave Flash here, and Adobe no longer supports Firefox, and there will be no automatic updates?  Am I understanding these things correctly?


No. It's not officially supported, it's a Linux workaround. It WILL be updated as normal with your other packages.