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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2016, 06:19:03 pm »
Hi perknh

Why can't he use Chromium? Have you thought about something lighter, Midori for instance?

I believe Google stopped supporting 32-bit Chrome and 32-bit Chromium 32-bit, although I can't remember why.  I replaced Peppermint's Chromium browser on his computer with Firefox.  He's got whatever Peppermint has to offer --including Peppermint's Games with Firefox.  Everything is functional.  I decided against enabling Canonical Partners and I didn't add Ubuntu-extras either.  There is no camera on this old computer, and this man never gets very fancy with his email either.  I'm debating whether or not to add Flash.  But, then I figure, if I did so it would be just one more thing we have to keep updating, and I'm trying to keep things as simple and secure for him as possible for him. 

I did install the Dalisha icon set, and I also added a few more wallpapers, just to spruce things up a bit! ;)

As for Midori...no, it hadn't even crossed my mind.
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2016, 06:43:49 pm »
It's not Google who support Chromium at all, it's open-source. I could be wrong but as far as I can see it still exists in 32-bit form. I thought you meant his PC couldn't handle it, in which case a lighter browser might be an idea.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2016, 06:52:33 pm »
It's not Google who support Chromium at all, it's open-source. I could be wrong but as far as I can see it still exists in 32-bit form. I thought you meant his PC couldn't handle it, in which case a lighter browser might be an idea.

Thank you, murraymint.  Here's what was going on:  It was, again, a Pepperflash Plugin issue with which I was dealing.  That's what it was all about.  Sorry, for creating any confusion here concerning Google.  My mistake.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2016, 07:00:10 pm »
Okay, now I get it. Yes, probably not a good idea to keep using an outdated Flash plugin.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2016, 07:17:21 pm »
Okay, now I get it. Yes, probably not a good idea to keep using an outdated Flash plugin.

murraymint, I rarely use Firefox.  I wonder if most people here who use Firefox install Flash or not.  I know, as time goes on, topics about Flash are beginning to lose their charm.  It seems to me there's constantly one problem after another concerning it.  Still, it may be a necessary evil, I don't know.  Perhaps I ought to install it for this fellow's computer.  I really don't know.  :-\

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2016, 07:42:29 pm »
There are pros and cons. Why not wait and see if he complains about not being able to watch videos on certain websites? Maybe he won't even need flash.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2016, 07:58:44 pm »
There are pros and cons. Why not wait and see if he complains about not being able to watch videos on certain websites? Maybe he won't even need flash.

Yes, I feel comfortable with that idea.  I won't install it unless he needs it.  That will be my approach.

Thank you, murraymint.  ;)

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2016, 08:34:05 pm »
Hi perknh, why not install Flash and then install a Flash blocker plugin.  That way Flash will be available but disabled.  If it's needed for example in YouTube or for the BBC iPlayer, an icon will appear on the screen inviting you to click to view/listen.  When the video or whatever is finished or closed, Flash is disabled again automatically.  This is what I do  ;).
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2016, 08:35:02 pm »
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2016, 08:55:25 pm »
Hello, AndyInMokum and PCNetSpec,

Okay, I never knew you could have an on and off switch for Flash.  Now, believe it or not, I've got Firefox installed on MY computer.

So, would I run?

sudo apt-get install flash  EDIT: Bad Command:  It doesn't work.

to install Flash.

And, then, is there a particular plugin you'd recommend to disable Flash?

And, what about updates for Flash?  Any luck that they could be automatic?

Sorry for all the questions.  But maybe my friend can end up having his cake and eating it too if I play this one right. ;D

@murraymint:  We've got some new ideas to entertain here!  :)

Thank you,

perknh
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2016, 09:11:54 pm »
Hello, AndyInMokum and PCNetSpec,

Okay, I never knew you could have an on and off switch for Flash.  Now, believe it or not, I've got Firefox installed on MY computer.

So, would I run?

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sudo apt-get install flash

to install Flash.

And, then, is there a particular plugin you'd recommend to disable Flash?

And, what about updates for Flash?  Any luck that they could be automatic?

Sorry for all the questions.  But maybe my friend can end up having his cake and eating it too if I play this one right. ;D

@murraymint:  We've got some new ideas to entertain here!  :)

Thank you,

perknh
Yeah, that's the command, Flash will get automatic updates, at least it should.  I just use the Flashblock plugin.  In the Flashbock preferences, you might want to uncheck the disable HTML5 video.  That way, these will automatically start.   There are other Flash blocking plugins too.  Have a play around.   I find it a great solution  ;).
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2016, 09:17:32 pm »
Hi AndyInMokum,

This sounds good to me.  I'll install Flash and Flashblock, and then I'll see how this goes.

Thank you.

perknh

P.S.

Maybe I didn't do something right here:

I'm not sure what commands I should use.  Playing around I got this:

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perknh@peppermint ~ $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  adobe-flashplugin:i386 adobe-flashplugin flashplugin-installer:i386
  flashplugin-installer

E: Package 'flashplugin' has no installation candidate
[close]
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2016, 10:34:40 pm »
If I remember rightly there's a third-party version of the plug-in that gets Flash from chrome and puts it into Firefox. You don't have to install chrome.

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sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer

if you want to try it.

Actually I've no idea if this works on 32-bit. Sorry if it's a wild-goose chase...

Go to Tools menu, Add-ons and put Flashblock into the search field. I use NoScript but it doesn't seem to be available any more.
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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2016, 11:26:45 pm »
Try:

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sudo apt-get purge pepperflashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

If doesn't update, try another browser like Opera.

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Re: Updating Pepperflash After Fresh Installaion [SOLVED]
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2016, 03:14:56 am »
Hi AndyInMokum,

This sounds good to me.  I'll install Flash and Flashblock, and then I'll see how this goes.

Thank you.

perknh

P.S.

Maybe I didn't do something right here:

I'm not sure what commands I should use.  Playing around I got this:

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perknh@peppermint ~ $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  adobe-flashplugin:i386 adobe-flashplugin flashplugin-installer:i386
  flashplugin-installer

E: Package 'flashplugin' has no installation candidate
[close]
No, you install the plugins from Firefox's internal settings.  Navigate from the hamburger icon on the top right hand side of the browser to: Add-ons > Get Add-ons.  Type Flashblock in the search window.  The available plug-ins will be presented  ;).

Edit: Flashblock Plus is a nice one.  You get a nice little icon in the browser that you can access all your preferences.  I just checked it out on the BBC iPlayer Radio and it works perfectly.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2016, 03:41:40 am by AndyInMokum »
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