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New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW. [Solved}
« on: February 13, 2016, 04:05:32 pm »
This is the system where we fixed the sources.list.d   That was an old issue that I had not fixed before a former PC of nearly identical configuration had died. This new system is identical except for this video card. Which would seem to be an up grade over the stock graphics. However the Additional Drivers Utility is not pulling any new drivers. Are the Proprietary drivers for this card no longer supported? On this card anything such at a web browser quickly becomes unusable with limited usage. Also for some reason I have a long list of no longer used dependencies... That seems very odd as well
 
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CPU~Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-HT-) clocked at 2794.957 Mhz Kernel~3.16.0-60-generic i686 Up~19 min Mem~576.3/747.5MB HDD~40.0GB(56.0% used) Procs~170 Client~Shell inxi~1.9.17  
brotherred@brotherred-home ~ $ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV100 [Radeon 7000 / Radeon VE]
           X.Org: 1.16.0 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RV100 5159) x86/MMX/SSE2 DRI2 GLX Versio
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 08:01:53 pm »
That's a very old graphics card which is probably unsupported by ATI/AMD any more .. I'm afraid you're stuck with the open source drivers.

That said it's just as likely that this is a RAM issue.

With a webpage open, can you send the output from:
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 11:28:36 am »

CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-HT-) cache: 1024 KB
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2794.850 MHz 2: 2794.850 MHz
           CPU Flags: acpi apic bts cid clflush cmov constant_tsc cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dts fpu
           fxsr ht mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr pae pat pbe pebs pge pni pse pse36 sep ss sse sse2
           tm tsc vme xtpr



             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:           747        698         49         34          1         99
-/+ buffers/cache:        598        149
Swap:            0          0          0

Yeah thats bad. Horrible right now...
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2016, 11:47:58 am »
Yeah, it's a RAM issue all right.  It looks like you only have 49MB available.  34MB are being shared with the graphics card, though that will only be used if necessary.  Still, 49 free isn't enough to do much of anything anymore, I'm afraid.  Unfortunately, it looks like it's either time to add some more RAM to that system, which is likely to be expensive given the age and type used, or simply upgrade to something more modern.

As for AMD, one of the things I don't like about them is how they stop supporting older cards in their drivers.  With Nvidia, as long as it's not something ancient, it's probably at least covered by a Legacy driver.  Though, even those tend to go away after a while.  Though, as that AMD card won't support much of anything, I doubt you'll be doing anything that won't be covered by the open source driver.
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2016, 03:37:55 pm »
Linux commands ARE case sensitive .. that's a capital "F" in:
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2016, 03:41:58 pm »
I am working on the upgrade. But this particular case is new to this installation. And I only noticed this issue when I started using this card.

I am not sure what to do now.

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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2016, 03:46:16 pm »
I didn't notice the capital F. Sorry. The command still gave output though. Is it what you want?

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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 04:55:28 pm »
Nope, I wanted the FULL output from:
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inxi -F
not just the graphics/cpu sections.

Can you explain what you mean by "System is very SLOW" .. when is it slow, do you just mean at flash, or do you mean the whole system is slow (like slow to boot, and slow to open applications, etc.)

Can you also expand on "This new system is identical except for this video card. Which would seem to be an up grade over the stock graphics." a little .. what were the "stock graphics" ? .. and why can't you swap back ?
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2016, 01:31:47 am »
OK there is the proper out put. The system does run at lot better with the on board graphics.

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System:    Host: -home Kernel: 3.16.0-60-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Six
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq dc7100 USDT(PN286AW)
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0980h Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 786C1 v01.59 date: 09/20/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-HT-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (pae sse sse2 sse3)
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2794.709 MHz 2: 2794.709 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
           X.Org: 1.16.0 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915G x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.3.2
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.16.0-60-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: 00:11:85:e4:c8:86
           Card-2: Ralink RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
           IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 200.1GB (12.6% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SP0411C size: 40.0GB
           2: USB id: /dev/sdc model: 2A size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 3.6G used: 3.4G (100%) fs: ext4 ID: /boot size: 666M used: 223M (37%) fs: ext4
           ID: /usr size: 12G used: 8.8G (80%) fs: ext4 ID: /var size: 6.3G used: 1.4G (23%) fs: ext4
           ID: /home size: 14G used: 9.8G (74%) fs: ext4
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 161 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 171.6/739.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17


On the getting a newer PC front I did copy this system to a 15 dollar laptop that seems faster already. Anyway I guess for my desktop pc I am asking for advice on removing the long list of unused packages.

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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2016, 02:47:05 am »
Hi Brothered, how's it going?  Your system has determined the packages you don't need any more because they're redundant.  You can safely remove them by running the command it's advising.
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Hit enter and enter your password when/if asked.  Hit enter again and it'll safely remove them all  ;).  If you want to hang on until PCNetSpec gets back to you.  He might want to give 'em the once over before you dispose of them  :).
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2016, 03:27:12 am »
OK thanks I remember there was the time when that would not Nessecity go so well

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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2016, 09:40:06 am »
Can't see anything in there that would harm a stock Peppermint 6, and you do now have a list of what to reinstall if you need to......

That said if you're running none stock Peppermint (such as having KDE installed), I dunno what damages will be caused there.

If you're not bothered about removing the packages "autoremove" says it will clean up, either ignore the message or reinstall those packages manually (over the top of the copies already installed and you'll not get the message again.

Autoremove should only remove packages that were marked as installed automatically as dependencies of something you installed manually .. if you've since removed whatever you installed manually they are now considered orphaned.
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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2016, 10:03:43 am »
OK when I get the money I plan on moving to AMD APUs.

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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW.
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2016, 11:37:35 am »
AMD APUs aren't bad at all.  I have one in my laptop, which runs Peppermint like a champ, despite low processing power.  (1 GHz dual core)  The only thing it won't do is play videos too well, but I think that's more of an issue with the lower power processor than the fact that it's an APU.  If you get one with enough juice, it should be fine.

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Re: New Graphics card installed. System is very SLOW. [Solved}
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2016, 02:39:12 pm »
Yeah I was just wondering about the possibility of Nvidia APUs. And any discrete graphics combination.

But anyway this is issue is solved I did have to delete /.mozilla as that had a number of error in it from a number of crashes. So far it seems ok even after syncing my tabs and extensions. Though I am posting this with my newly installed laptop. More on that in another post.

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