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PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:20:40 pm »
 I installed PPM 4 on a newly built box yesterday, and it takes almost 30 seconds to boot. The box has an MSI FX mobo, AMD 8350 8 core processor, 16 gig of Cordair DDR 3, 620 watt power supply, and an Nvidia GT630, 2 gig graphis card. Any suggestions?

   
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Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 01:25:58 pm »
30 seconds seems fast to me, did you ever watch xp or vista or windows 7 load up? They take like 5 minutes to load?
looks like you have really fast machine there, I never timed my bootups on my old machines but I am sure it is a lot longer then 30 seconds, I will check the one I am working on right now...
it is a single core 1.6 gig intel atom processor with 2 gigs ram...   Mine takes 1 minute and 4 seconds to load, so 30 seconds it flying in my opinion....  :)
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Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 02:44:14 pm »
Curious so I just timed my Acer Aspire 1 with dual core 1.66GHz CPU & 2 GB ram, got 50 seconds total, with a 10 second delay for dual boot option, so a net of 40 seconds.

On same machine I take a potty break if I direct it to Windows 7 Starter.
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Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 03:25:28 pm »
On same machine I take a potty break if I direct it to Windows 7 Starter.
LOL Now I am curious do you finish your potty break before windows 7 starts???   LOL    :D
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Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 03:29:43 pm »
Oh yea. ..  easily .. not even sure why I keep Windows around.   Seem to only run it to do Windows needed maintenance issues.   I did convert my old HP mini netbook on Windows XP Pro completely over to Peppermint Ice, and have not looked back.
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Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 03:48:49 pm »
30 second boot seems about right for that spec to me.

The bottleneck will not be the RAM or CPU, it'll be the hard drive .. want a faster boot, switch to an SSD.

But in reality boot times are irrelevant .. they tend to highlight bottlenecks that won't be a problem actual daily "use".
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Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 06:26:28 pm »
Curious so I just timed my Acer Aspire 1 with dual core 1.66GHz CPU & 2 GB ram, got 50 seconds total, with a 10 second delay for dual boot option, so a net of 40 seconds.

On same machine I take a potty break if I direct it to Windows 7 Starter.
I have PPM4 on another machine with an AMD 8120 8 core, and running from an SSD. Boot time there is 6 seconds. I used to have Win 7 on the SSd and it still took 30 seconds before you could use it. PPM is the fastest distro have used and have converted 3 people at work to it. Two of them weren't Linux users, but they are now.

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 07:18:51 pm »
The bottleneck will not be the RAM or CPU, it'll be the hard drive .. want a faster boot, switch to an SSD.

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    11-sec boot -- 290MB/s disk throughput -- on Peppermint 4 Re-Spin.   

    Not bad for a 5 year-old, SATA II laptop...
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    Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
    « Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 07:42:25 pm »
    @oldator:  You might want to try running BootChart.  It's excellent for diagnosing slow boot times...
    • Install the bootchart and pybootchartgui packages, either through apt-get or Synaptic
    • Reboot your machine
    • The actual bootchart is stored in /var/log/bootchart as a .png file

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    Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
    « Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 08:12:26 pm »
    For clarity - VinDSL's 11 second boot is with an SSD
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    Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
    « Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 11:30:42 pm »
    For clarity - VinDSL's 11 second boot is with an SSD

    Heh!  I knew I forgot something when I posted that.   8)

    Yes, it's a 2.5" SanDisk 64GB Ultra Plus SSD (SDSSDHP-064G-G25) -- $65 usd.

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    Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
    « Reply #11 on: May 24, 2014, 02:20:02 pm »
    guess my 42 seconds is still zippy for a non-ssd laptop, wish it felt like it though... 
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    Re: PPM 4 seems slow to boot.
    « Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 01:47:32 am »
    42 is pretty good. My SSD takes 10-15 seconds.

    In the past I checked my dbus to make sure wiifi starts after the boot is complete.

    This doesn't sound like the case but it's worth a look at the processes during boot by hitting F1 (any key may work) and it will show the processes while they move along.

    If it's waiting for wifi or bluetooth you may be able to make those optional.

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/3677/disable-wireless-on-startup

    again. This doesn't sound like a slow boot time for a mechanical hard drive.
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