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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2015, 11:39:51 am »
Let me be the first then  :P  Can we have a Windows theme please

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2015, 11:49:41 am »
I'd probably have phrased it slightly differently but yeah ;) .. Zebedee was always the smart one :)
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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2015, 12:00:47 pm »
Honestly making Peppermint look like Windows is a bit like wanting your Mercedes to look like a Morris Oxford, far better just to install Windows and you can have it run like a Morris Oxford as well






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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2015, 12:24:29 pm »
Honestly making Peppermint look like Windows is a bit like wanting your Mercedes to look like a Morris Oxford, far better just to install Windows and you can have it run like a Morris Oxford as well

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2015, 01:17:47 pm »
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I had to have my Morris "pimped" out to take all the HDD's

That's nice very nice indeed and in peppermint red, it;s amazing what you can do with a few Minor alterations  :)





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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2015, 08:30:00 pm »
Let me be the first then  :P  Can we have a Windows theme please

You do know the answer to that, right ? ;)

The answer is yes, provided you make it yourself.  :P

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Well, it did.  I quit using that method in 2006 and haven't had a cigarette since.

I never said you didn't

I never said you said I didn't. ;)  I was merely pointing out that it does work.  Really, quitting is different for each person and different methods work for different people.  Whether or not a person is successful comes down to willpower.  Much like quitting Windows.  ;)  Hell, it was harder for me to quit Windows than it was to quit smoking.

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2015, 10:56:21 pm »
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I never said you said I didn't. ;)  I was merely pointing out that it does work.  Really, quitting is different for each person and different methods work for different people.  Whether or not a person is successful comes down to willpower.  Much like quitting Windows.  ;)  Hell, it was harder for me to quit Windows than it was to quit smoking.

I know what you're saying, I only used the gradual reduction analogy as a way of pointing out that I think it's often harder to come off something that way ie as far as I understand Nicorette patches (which is gradual reduction) has a 95% failure rate and I still believe for most people gradual reduction only makes it harder and ultimately doesn't work it certainly didn't for me and I think the same applies for people moving from Windows to Linux,

Linux is not Windows and it shouldn't look or feel like Windows and any attempt to do so is a deception, I've moved a few people over to Linux and I used to bend over backwards to help them adapt to it because I somehow felt responsible but now my outlook is

This is Linux this is how it works it's different from Windows but it's just as easy to use, there is a learning curve so if you need any help let me know but if it's too much effort to learn it then go back to Windows




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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2015, 07:30:50 am »
Yeah, Nicorette, Nicoderm, etc. is all bad because it still feeds the source of the addiction, the nicotine.  Then they have those electronic cigarettes now that also deliver nicotine but with "harmless" water vapor.  (my mom knows somebody who got seriously ill off of the "harmless" water vapor)  Substituting one addiction for another never works because the source of the addiction is still there.  Quitting smoking is mental and it requires the strength of will to power through some serious cravings.  Having something else to occupy your time helps, having another source of nicotine doesn't.  I had a hobby that helped me get through it.

As for the whole Windows/Linux thing, I agree with all of your points, Graeme.  Linux is different.  Not bad different, just different.  People need to realize that from the start.

Though, honestly, what keeps people in Windows isn't the way it looks.  Program compatibility is what keeps people there and no theme in the world will add that compatibility to Linux.  Switching to Linux is a matter of not only learning different ways of doing things, but also of finding software alternatives.

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2015, 08:29:45 pm »
True, hardware support is an ongoing issue and one that is the fault of the OEMs.  However, when a piece of hardware doesn't work, they aren't always the ones who get the blame.  A lot of people point the finger at Linux itself, like it's Linus Torvalds' or other Linux coders' responsibility to create drivers for everything.

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2015, 11:12:44 pm »
True, hardware support is an ongoing issue and one that is the fault of the OEMs.  However, when a piece of hardware doesn't work, they aren't always the ones who get the blame.  A lot of people point the finger at Linux itself, like it's Linus Torvalds' or other Linux coders' responsibility to create drivers for everything.
That's the truth.  It's something the Linux critics love to falsely use and spread.  This is why the majority of Windows only users believe that the hardware and software incompatibilities are a deficiency of the Linux kernel.   Rather than merely, the shortsightedness and laziness of the OEMs and their bean counters.
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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2015, 06:22:02 am »
True, hardware support is an ongoing issue and one that is the fault of the OEMs.  However, when a piece of hardware doesn't work, they aren't always the ones who get the blame.  A lot of people point the finger at Linux itself, like it's Linus Torvalds' or other Linux coders' responsibility to create drivers for everything.
That's the truth.  It's something the Linux critics love to falsely use and spread.  This is why the majority of Windows only users believe that the hardware and software incompatibilities are a deficiency of the Linux kernel.   Rather than merely, the shortsightedness and laziness of the OEMs and their bean counters.

Right.  Plus, those same users completely ignore the fact that there are plenty of incompatibilities with Windows.  I mean, who doesn't remember the Vista roll out, where hardly anything, especially printers, had Vista drivers?  That was fun.  Though, in all fairness, I do believe many of them did blame Vista itself, as most computer users don't know (or care) where their drivers come from, they simply want their stuff working.

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2015, 06:28:42 am »
...Right.  Plus, those same users completely ignore the fact that there are plenty of incompatibilities with Windows.  I mean, who doesn't remember the Vista roll out, where hardly anything, especially printers, had Vista drivers?  That was fun.  Though, in all fairness, I do believe many of them did blame Vista itself, as most computer users don't know (or care) where their drivers come from, they simply want their stuff working.
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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2015, 06:54:10 am »
...Right.  Plus, those same users completely ignore the fact that there are plenty of incompatibilities with Windows.  I mean, who doesn't remember the Vista roll out, where hardly anything, especially printers, had Vista drivers?  That was fun.  Though, in all fairness, I do believe many of them did blame Vista itself, as most computer users don't know (or care) where their drivers come from, they simply want their stuff working.
Vista - Vista was a walk in the park compared to Windows ME.  What an unmitigated piece of garbage that was  >:(!!

Yes, indeed it was.  Windows ME is the worst version of Windows I've ever used.  It was a hot mess that seemed like half 98SE and half XP and the two halves didn't agree with each other.  I hated that piece of garbage with a vengeance.  I bought the "upgrade" after it was released, not knowing anything about it other than it was the new Windows.  After dealing with an endless stream of BSODs, I finally upgraded back to 98SE.  That was when I started being wary of new Windows releases and stopped getting them right after they were out.  Instead, I started waiting for reviews to be up before spending $100 on a potential dud upgrade.

The only reason I even had Vista was because I needed a new computer in 2008 and that was what was available.  I tried to find XP, but to no avail on anything that I actually wanted to buy.  Though, since Vista's compatibility issues pushed me towards Linux, I can't say it was a totally bad thing.  ;)

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2015, 07:02:03 am »
Windows 10 is doing them no favours either .. I have 2 brand new HP laptops (but this problem is NOT limited to HP laptops), both need the Synaptics touchpad driver updating with one from Synaptics themselves, but Win10 won't let you ::)

The touchpad drivers that come with Windows 10 are broken, they loose any custom settings every time you reboot .. so you install the ones from Synaptic right ? .. yeah that works for a few days, then Windows 10 downgrades them back to the ones Microsoft are pushing (in an attempt to unify drivers for all Win10 users).

So you hunt the interweb and discover there's a (well hidden) way to disable "driver" updates ... great right ? .. wrong .. so after disabling automatic driver updates you reload the working touchpad driver from Synaptic only to (a few days later) discover Win10 completely ignores that setting and downgrades the touchpad driver back to the broken one anyway >:(

BTW, you'll REALLY want to change the default settings because scrolling is upside down, and there's no single finger scrolling (amongst other stupid default settings).

It's not as though Microsoft don't know about this problem (not only is it all over the web and HP, and Lenovo, etc. forums, but it's all over their own forums) .. it's just that they're doing nothing about it
(don't believe me .. google windows 10 synaptics)

Recently I've discovered 2 registry edits to fix the 2 problems with the drivers that come with Win10...

the first instructs the touchpad driver NOT to reset the driver to defaults every time it's reinstalled .. which must mean the default Win10 driver is thinking it's being reinstalled every boot
That fixes the touchpad settings being returned to defaults every boot, but it does NOT stop the tick being removed from "Disable internal pointing device when a USB mouse is attached" every boot .. that needs a second edit to the registry.

Microsoft .. do you think Joe Average is going to be able work this out ?

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Re: Windows 10 Accurate Linux Theme Released for Almost All Major Desktops
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2015, 08:54:44 am »
No, it's probably way worse than MS thinking Joe Average can figure this out.  Remember, MS thinks their entire user base is a bunch of computer illiterate morons who can't work things out.  That's why they try to have the OS do the thinking for them.  This is them actually trying to be helpful.  They'd probably rather have broken drivers in their OS than have Joe Average go through the terribly complex (extreme sarcasm) process of installing drivers.  They probably think this thing that you hate actually makes the thing easier to use.
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