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Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens [solved]
« on: November 08, 2015, 04:45:24 pm »
I have a Toshiba A505 Satallite laptop with core 2 processor that was set up to dual boot pepermint one and W7. I wanted to upgrade from P1 to P6, so I created a bootable flash drive, booted to it and ran the installer. Well, I misread the installation setup and never saw an option to install alongside other OS and it ended up reformatiing the entire HD. However, now the problem is that the bootloader won't come up unless I go through F12 on the BIOS, and even after selecting P6, all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor that does nothing. I tried going back ion through the USB version and reformatting the HDD and reinstalling but same issues remain.

Appreciate any and all help.
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2015, 04:49:45 pm »
Hi ut_icedragon, and welcome to the forum :)

Can you expand on what you mean by:-

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unless I go through F12 on the BIOS

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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2015, 04:57:52 pm »
Update: forget the bootloader issue. I went to replicate it on the laptop just now and it is coming up each time on its own.

Still have the bigger issue of P6 not starting when it is selected.

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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2015, 05:00:19 pm »
OK, are you able to see if the hard drive activity light is doing anything when the screen goes black .. does it appear to be booting properly, just with a blank screen ? .. or is it not booting at all (no HDD activity) ?
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2015, 05:07:01 pm »
Turn ON your PC, and as soon as your BIOS POST screen disappears, press the SHIFT key and hold it, until you are presented with the GRUB menu .. SIMILAR to this:
(you won't have long to hit the shift key, and the timing can be a little awkward, so it may even be easier to hit AND HOLD the Shift key DURING the BIOS POST .. ie. immediately after turning on your PC)


Select the 'default' kernel (usually the top one), and rather than pressing enter, press E to edit.

You will be presented with a screen SIMILAR to this:


Press DOWN ARROW until you get to the line that starts with:

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linux /boot

and press the END key to position the cursor at the end of the that line... it *usually* ends with “quiet splash”.

Now you can enter additional kernel boot options... so add nomodeset as in the above screenshot .. so it now ends with:

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quiet splash nomodeset
(doesn't matter if it moves down a line, as long as there is a space between splash and nomodeset)

Now hit Ctrl+X to boot.

if it boots, once at the desktop hit Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal and post the output from running this command:
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sudo lshw -C display
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2015, 05:16:19 pm »

Press DOWN ARROW until you get to the line that starts with:

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linux /boot

and press the END key to position the cursor at the end of the that line... it *usually* ends with “quiet splash”.

Now you can enter additional kernel boot options... so add nomodeset as in the above screenshot .. so it now ends with:

Quote
quiet splash nomodeset
(doesn't matter if it moves down a line, as long as there is a space between splash and nomodeset)

Now hit Ctrl+X to boot.

if it boots, once at the desktop hit Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal and post the output from running this command:
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sudo lshw -C display
OK, are you able to see if the hard drive activity light is doing anything when the screen goes black .. does it appear to be booting properly, just with a blank screen ? .. or is it not booting at all (no HDD activity) ?

HD light does go on and off during startup through BIOS and GRUB menu. When P6 is selected the activity light flashes for a moment and then the blank screen with blinking cursor comes up with no HD activity light ever coming on again. It seems to boot fine to the GRUB menu and then it just stops once the   "Peppermint GNU/Linux" option is selected.

I get to the quite splash line but it currently ends with "quiet splash $vt\_handoff"

should I enter the "nomodeset" after the "handoff" or remove that part so it appears exactly as "quiet splash nomodeset"?

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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 05:45:09 pm »
doesn't really matter where you add it...

But if you're getting a flashing cursor with no HDD activity I think you may have a different issue.

Can you boot to the LiveUSB, then open a terminal and post the output from:
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sudo fdisk -l
and
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sudo blkid
and if necessary are you willing to completely wipe the HDD (by writing a new partition table) and reinstall ?
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 09:27:48 pm »
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sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0006b4c7

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048   968654847   484326400   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       968656894   976771071     4057089    5  Extended
/dev/sda5       968656896   976771071     4057088   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 8036 MB, 8036285952 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 977 cylinders, total 15695871 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *          44    15679439     7839698    b  W95 FAT32

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sudo blkid
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/sda1: UUID="cce5d4a6-ee4f-433f-a944-2d818fa63b30" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/sda5: UUID="5bfae25c-f756-47ac-acbf-d66cb6ff5d51" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sdb1: LABEL="Cruzer" UUID="E010-9400" TYPE="vfat"

since the HD has been reformatted already, I have no issue doing it again, unless there's a trick to recovering the data from before the first format.
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 06:18:39 am »
If you mean recovering Windows7 .. sorry but those partition(s) have gone.

OK, first let's try reinstalling the GRUB bootloader (if this doesn't work we'll reformat and try installing again).

Boot to the LiveUSB and run these commands in sequence:
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sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
then
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for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
then
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sudo chroot /mnt
then
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grub-install /dev/sda
then
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update-grub
Now hit Ctrl+D (to exit the chroot environment)

Now shut down the PC with:
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sudo shutdown -P now
once shut down, remove the LiveUSB and try booting normally.

were there any errors, and did it boot ?
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 07:53:43 am »
If you mean recovering Windows7 .. sorry but those partition(s) have gone.

OK, first let's try reinstalling the GRUB bootloader (if this doesn't work we'll reformat and try installing again).

Boot to the LiveUSB and run these commands in sequence:
Code: [Select]
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
then
Code: [Select]
for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
then
Code: [Select]
sudo chroot /mnt
then
Code: [Select]
grub-install /dev/sda
then
Code: [Select]
update-grub
Now hit Ctrl+D (to exit the chroot environment)

Now shut down the PC with:
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sudo shutdown -P now
once shut down, remove the LiveUSB and try booting normally.

were there any errors, and did it boot ?
I ran the commands, went smoothly, but it did not boot.

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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2015, 08:18:28 am »
OK, let's start from scratch....

Boot to the LiveUSB, then fire up

menu > System Tools > GParted

in the top right-hand corner of gparted it says "/dev/sda"

Now in the list of partitions, right-click on "/dev/sda5  linux-swap" and select "Swapoff"

Now go to

Device > Create Partition Table...

and when asked, select an MSDOS style partition table .. and accept the change.

Once that's done, and the drive is now totally unpartitioned .. Close GParted.

Now click on the "Install Peppermint" icon on the desktop and work your way through the installation accepting the defaults.
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2015, 06:05:02 pm »
Did all these steps, but no dice. Still won't boot.

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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2015, 06:28:02 pm »
OK, doesn't look like a grub issue then....

Try this:-

Turn ON your PC, and as soon as your BIOS POST screen disappears, press the SHIFT key and hold it, until you are presented with the GRUB menu .. SIMILAR to this:
(you won't have long to hit the shift key, and the timing can be a little awkward, so it may even be easier to hit AND HOLD the Shift key DURING the BIOS POST .. ie. immediately after turning on your PC)


Select the 'default' kernel (usually the top one), and rather than pressing enter, press E to edit.

You will be presented with a screen SIMILAR to this:


Press DOWN ARROW until you get to the line that starts with:

Quote
linux /boot

and press the END key to position the cursor at the end of the that line... it *usually* ends with “quiet splash”.

Now you can change the kernel boot options... so REMOVE the words quiet splash $vt\_handoff

Now hit Ctrl+X to boot.

Hopefully this will display what's going on in the background during the boot process and give us a clue where it's stalling.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 06:30:26 pm by PCNetSpec »
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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2015, 06:33:42 pm »


The result

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Re: Installed peppermint 6 64 bit but nothing happens
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2015, 06:38:46 pm »


Okay so something else. I left the computer running for a few minutes and the screen changed. Now stuck on that.

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