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Hello my friends at Peppermint,

I felt like bumping up my 3.16 LTS kernel in Peppermint 6 to the 3.19 LTS kernel which is usually found in Vivid Vervet (15.04).

I ran this command, which seems to have done the trick:

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sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid
It was a command originally created for servers.  I then went into my terminal and removed and purged the 3.16 kernel.  All seems to be working fine.  Is it really that simple to change kernels? 

Just curious!

Thank you,

perknh
« Last Edit: August 17, 2015, 04:47:09 am by perknh »
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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2015, 11:53:53 am »
I don't see why it would be difficult, since many people change kernels to suit their individual taste all the time.

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2015, 12:06:30 pm »
I don't see why it would be difficult, since many people change kernels to suit their individual taste all the time.

Wow!  That sure was easy.  Now, I'm wondering if I could substitute Wily for Vivid.  Or, maybe that would pushing things a bit!  ;D

Thanks.

perknh

Update:

Nope --not yet with that command.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 12:10:48 pm by perknh »
[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2015, 12:09:45 pm »
3.19 is in the repositories for 14.04.  I don't know what 15.10 is going to be using.  I'm assuming that's what you mean by "Wily."  (as you can probably tell, I don't really keep up with Canonical's animal names)  I don't see anything for it in the repositories, so I doubt that changing the command to that would work.

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel [SOLVED]
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2015, 01:01:24 pm »
You're absolutely right.  It didn't work.
[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel [SOLVED]
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2015, 06:16:13 pm »
The full command should have been:
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sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vividso you also have the updated vivid graphics stack
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack.

There won't be an *-lts-wily LTS Enablement Stack for 14.04 until shortly after the 14.04.4 point release .. which in itself will be around the same time 16.04 LTS comes out.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 06:20:19 pm by PCNetSpec »
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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel [SOLVED]
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 07:03:40 pm »
Thank you, PCNetSpec,

I tried that, but it said I had unmet dependencies, and I could go no further with that command.  Strangely enough, that command still works for Peppermint 5.  But I couldn't get it to work in Peppermint 6.

I tried adding the rest of the command now, and this is what I got for a message now and earlier:

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[close]

This is why I only changed the kernel.  That was all I was able to do.

Would I be smart to reinstall P6 and go back to the 3.16 kernel?  That would be no problem for me.

perknh
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 07:33:41 pm by perknh »
[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2015, 09:43:06 am »
Is the command to update the kernel the same for either 32 bit or 64 bit?  Also, what is the proper command to remove the old kernel without causing problems?  Thanks.

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2015, 11:34:05 am »
Is the command to update the kernel the same for either 32 bit or 64 bit?  Also, what is the proper command to remove the old kernel without causing problems?  Thanks.

Hello jlscwartz,

Yes, the command is the same.  Now, for whatever reason, I can't get the desktop kernel command to install in Peppermint 6.  However I can get it to install in Peppermint 5.  I don't know why this is, but this is the case for me.  :-\

But first you'd want to install the new kernel, and then you're want to remove and purge the old kernel.

Here are AndyInMokum's instructions, with an example, as to how to do that:

http://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,1517.msg13741.html#msg13741

But, remember, install the new kernel first, or, I promise you, you'll be going nowhere really, really fast!  ;) (I know this firsthand because I once uninstalled my working kernel by mistake.  That was an oops moment for me!  ;D)

perknh

[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2015, 01:07:01 pm »
Hi jlschwartz,

Do not remove your old kernel until you are certain that the new kernel is working without any problems!! There is no rush to get rid of the old kernel !! Wait at least several boots and tests of all your devices and programs while running the new kernel. Run this in a terminal:

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uname -a
to make sure that the new kernel is running and not still the old one. I always keep an old working kernel as my safety net to fall back to in case a newer kernel starts acting up.

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2015, 01:25:17 pm »
Yes, good point, Slim.Fatz --and this sure beats being without any kernel at all. ;)
[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2015, 03:29:39 pm »
Do you think I could upgrade the 3.13 LTS kernel in Peppermint 5 to the 3.19 LTS kernel to see if that would speed it up a bit?

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2015, 04:33:12 pm »
Do you think I could upgrade the 3.13 LTS kernel in Peppermint 5 to the 3.19 LTS kernel to see if that would speed it up a bit?

Although, it's certainly not necessary, I like the idea of having a newer kernel with long term support.  I've done it on two computers running Peppermint 5, and everything seems to be working just fine from what I can see.

If you decide to do so, do use PCNetSpec's link:

http://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,2239.msg21832.html#msg21832

And, as Slim.Fatz says, if all seems to working well for you with the 3.19 kernel, then use AndyInMokum's instructions to clean out the old 3.13 kernel.

Andy's instructions:

http://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,1517.msg13741.html#msg13741

jlschwartz, if you decide to upgrade your kernel, please tell us how it works out for you.  As for my experience doing so --so far I'm liking what I see.  :)

Have fun with whatever you decide to do.  ;)

perknh



[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 03:33:38 pm »
Do you need to add a repository?  I get errors that it can't find the packages when I try to install the updated kernel.   Thanks.

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Re: Bumping Up form then 3.16 LTS Kernel to the 3.19 LTS Kernel
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 05:05:06 pm »
Do you need to add a repository?  I get errors that it can't find the packages when I try to install the updated kernel.   Thanks.

Hello jlschwartz,

I had the same experience with Peppermint 6, and I never learned how to resolve that issue.  On the other hand, I had no problems running the command in Peppermint 5.  Are you experiencing this problem with Peppermint 6, or Peppermint 5, or with both releases?

For me, Peppermint 5 is running fine with the 3.19 kernel.  However, today, for whatever reason, I did have to remove duplicate update sources from my update manager.  That being said, I have no idea if I had that problem because of the introduction of the 3.19 kernel, or because of some unrelated reason --such as a bug!

Although I had absolutely no luck running that entire command within Peppermint 6; I'm still glad I did so within Peppermint 5. :)

perknh



[T]here are a lot of people happily running Peppermint ICE which hasn't been receiving ANY updates for a while now .. and I personally would STILL consider that MUCH more secure than any version of Windows with up-to-date AV/Anti-malware ;)

--  PCNetSpec, Cornwall, Eng.  Dec 03, 2013 5:18 pm