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Question of P5 Installed Next to P4 [Answered}
« on: January 17, 2015, 03:39:35 pm »
The last question for the new installation of Peppermint 5.  I cleaned out everything except the P4 installation on the netbook, so it has a 146 GB partition and a 100 GB partition, both with no data, and the 40 GB partition containing the P4 install.  I let the P5 installation choose where it wanted to go, selecting the "install alongside" the P4 installation option.  From the screen showing me 2 boxes, one with the picture of a file folder, the other box with a picture of a peppermint, and saying I could use the "slider" to adjust the size of the boxes or go to another screen for more precise partition adjustments (which I didn't feel comfortable with), I just left the boxes as they were knowing I had plenty of room and thought P5 would install on one of the 2 empty partitions.

So my surprise when after the successful installation of P5 I ran Gparted and saw that the files for P5 lay on the same partition as P4.  So P5 literally installed alongside P4.  I would have thought files would get commingled.  Of course everything is working just fine, but I wonder why P5 didn't install on a an empty partition?  It isn't designed to do so?

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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 03:43:50 pm »
I find it hard to believe it installed like that? It is supposed to create a partition for itself alongside the partition for the other OS...
As far as p4 goes that os is dead, you should get your files off of it you need and remove it...  :)
I'm sure mark will be around shortly and help you out with your install issue...  ;)
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 03:51:45 pm »
I should say that the other 2 partitions are ntfs formatted and the P4 partition is etx3, maybe that had something to do with it?

I don't need the P4 system or anything from that version now.
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 04:11:36 pm »
Hi starchase, while you are in Peppermint Five could you please enter the following command into a terminal window and post the output back.

Tip:  Linux is case sensitive.  To reduce the possibility of typographical errors, please use the Code: [Select] function below to highlight the contents.

Note: For enhanced security, passwords are entered invisibly.  There is NO indication of any user input.  You may enter an incorrect password 3 times before you have to repeat the action you are trying to apply.  Click on the centre mouse button/wheel while in the terminal window to paste the contents. 

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sudo fdisk -lThis will give use an view of your partition structure.  Good luck  ;).
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2015, 04:25:07 pm »
Sorry I hope this screen shot of GParted I just took will suffice.  This forum just shut down and restarted and has been slow as molasses for the past hour adn quite painful.  But if you really need me to do the fdisk I'll be glad to, please let me know.''

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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2015, 04:32:07 pm »
the ntfs partitions look like they still contain windows, i see 68 gigs used, hard to tell since that side of screen is cutoff?
As far as pep4 and pep5 they are split one is on sda5 one on sda7...   if ya notice one is using 5.5 gigs the other 6.5 gigs i believe the 5.5 gig one is pep5 on sda7, but without seeing what andy asked for in terminal we can't be sure...
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2015, 04:43:48 pm »
Here you go

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Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x7f69d473

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048   241174527   120586240    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       241174528   371081823    64953648    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda4       371083262   625141759   127029249    5  Extended
Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.
/dev/sda5       539930624   623069183    41569280   83  Linux
/dev/sda6       623071232   625141759     1035264   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7       371083264   539930623    84423680   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2015, 05:18:49 pm »
sda 5 6 and 7 are your linux partitions, one is pep4 one is pep5 and one is a swap file for linux...  not sure which is which so I am not going to tell you which to remove at this point, maybe mark will know which is which, or give you commands to run to tell him which one is pep5...  he should be on tomorrow, if you don't see him today...  :)
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2015, 05:48:46 pm »
So all is ok then, eh?
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2015, 06:42:49 pm »
Boot into Peppermint 5 (not 4), and post the output from these 3 commands:
cat /etc/lsb-release | grep -i description
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mountand
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sudo blkidand the contents of this file:
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gedit /etc/fstab
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2015, 07:17:27 pm »
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melianne@waxisme1956 ~ $ cat /etc/lsb-release | grep -i description
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Peppermint Five"

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melianne@waxisme1956 ~ $ mount
/dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
none on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw)
systemd on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,none,name=systemd)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=melianne)
/dev/sda5 on /media/melianne/b3d01d0f-cdc6-4219-8d5c-2994d92646db type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)

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melianne@waxisme1956 ~ $ sudo blkid
[sudo] password for melianne:
/dev/sda1: UUID="344066BC5B81E832" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda3: UUID="63D4A61543089642" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda5: UUID="b3d01d0f-cdc6-4219-8d5c-2994d92646db" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/sda6: UUID="89a3e44a-773f-476f-bcd7-282181ef30ff" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda7: UUID="57a31aa0-d33f-46c3-af39-0ba67b53eaa7" TYPE="ext4"

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melianne@waxisme1956 ~ $ gedit /etc/fstab

** (gedit:13083): WARNING **: Could not load Gedit repository: Typelib file for namespace 'GtkSource', version '3.0' not found


# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda7 during installation
UUID=57a31aa0-d33f-46c3-af39-0ba67b53eaa7 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
# swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=89a3e44a-773f-476f-bcd7-282181ef30ff none            swap    sw              0       0


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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2015, 06:50:47 am »
OK, Peppermint 5 is definitely on /dev/sda7 .. so we can safely assume Peppermint 4 is on /dev/sda5

What is the goal here .. to get rid of the 2 NTFS partitions and expand the 2 Peppermint partitions ?

Whilst that *can* be done, why do you still want Peppermint 4 ? .. the reason I ask is surely it would be easier to just reinstall peppermint 5 letting it use the whole disk. ?
(or deleting the 2 NTFS partitions leaving unpartitioned space .. then deleting sda7 and resizing the extended partition sda4 to just the size necessary for4 sda5 and sda6 .. then reinstalling Peppermint 5 allowing it to use the unpartitioned free space)
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2015, 07:36:41 am »
G'morning

No, I'm fine as is. It looks like all is well and there are no conflicts from what you are implying.  I can leave P4 alone if it is causing no issues.  If you think it is safer to open GParted and delete that particular partition I can do that.  But I'm good to go as things are now since the machine works fine.  Except for some clean-up things like log-on and hibernate issues for which I'll open up separate topics.

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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2015, 07:45:18 am »
No there are no conflicts, and Peppermint 4 is safe to stay .. the only issue is you're wasting most of your hard drive (unless you use the NTFS partitions for storage)
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Re: Question of P5 Installed Next to P4
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2015, 08:51:36 am »
Thanks for the news.  Where does Grub reside?  I can delete all of the data on the partition where P4 is with no repercussions?

I'm thinking I should extend the swap file in order to restore the Hibernate feature per this tutorial  http://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,1046.0.html.  Right now the swap is only 1 GB, same as the installed RAM, which may be enough, but like you say, there is a lot of room on this disk.

My wife will never use much more of the space that is now being used so I could just leave things as they are, this is just a convenience netbook so she doesn't have to go to the office to check emails and do Facebook reading and posting, so its not a work machine in that sense (though Facebook is a lot of work for her gallery so I don't mean to demean the importance of that - it just doesn't take a lot of computer power).

Anyway, getting back on track, there shouldn't be any problems readjusting the partition size of the P5 partition and swap file do you think?

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