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Received netbook with Ppmt on ! [SOLVED] ty.
« on: January 05, 2015, 01:28:28 pm »
Hi folks, Just received a nice little Asus netbook Eee PC 900 (Intel processor)... with Peppermint OS on it and just got home and started it up ... it's asking for a u/n and p/w so I've asked the chap that I got it from to give them to me ... but so far he's not come back.
Is there anyway to restart the system and work around no u/n & p/w ? Or will I just have to completely wipe the drive and totally start again please.
I've never used ppmt before and have little idea what to do or expect.

All help much appreciated. Thanks. :)
« Last Edit: January 08, 2015, 08:11:01 pm by AuroraMagic »

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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 02:09:45 pm »
You *can* figure out the username then reset the password, but as you'd expect it's not made ridiculously easy.

First you need to access the GRUB bootloader screen .. usually the easiest way to do this is to turn on the PC and then immediately hit and hold the Shift key until you are presented with the GRUB menu.

Once at the GRUB menu, use the down arrow to select "Advanced options for Peppermint" and hit enter.

On the next screen select the top otion that ends with (Recovery Mode) and hit enter.

When prompted, select "Drop to a Root Shell Prompt" and hit enter.

Now you can try to figure out the username by running this command:
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ls /home

Once you know the username, you'll need to remount the file system read/write so run:
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mount -o rw,remount /
then change the password for the username you discovered earlier with
passwd username
(be sure to replace "ussername" with the actual username you found earlier)

You will be prompted for a new username .. enter it, being awazre that nothing will be echoed to screen whilst you type it.

You will be prompted to re-enter it .. do so.

It should inform you the password was changed successfully.

Shut down the PC with this command:
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shutdown -P now
then fire up the PC and use the username from earlier and the new password.

You can see this info here (wth screenshots):
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 03:23:20 pm »
Thanks for all that but ... I've hit Shift and Tab at various times and held down from pre start to after start to various pressing and nothing gets the dos to 'hold' and provide any menu.
The best i can read is something about username unknown ...

So humm stuck ....

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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 03:24:59 pm »
what a shame he really should have given you the passwords with your order.
maybe he will respond. hopefully your issue gets resolved.
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 03:34:29 pm »
the timing can be a bit awkward for hitting the Shift key.

You really need to hit it JUST after the BIOS POST screen disappears, but before the Peppermint loading screen appears.

Your only other options are to

a) reset the password from a Peppermint LiveUSB
or
b) to reinstall Peppermint

Either way, unless you can bring up the GRUB menu you're soing to need a Peppermint LiveUSB stick.

Which OS are you currently running ?

and do you have a 1GB or larger USB stick ?
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 03:36:12 pm by PCNetSpec »
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 03:41:40 pm »
reinstallling peppermint is pretty easy if worst comes to worst its a pretty quick process should take no less than 20 mins or less.
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2015, 04:05:47 pm »
Thanks for all the comments! OK will have 'more goes'!

I see that I can download a 'stick' I'm assuming that this is a 32bit netbook so I guess it's going to be $10 ? or can I download a free version somewhere and then put it on a flash drive then plug that in and hope that it will recognise it and then run ?

I've never used this before so no idea what to expect ! Currently using Win 7 on my Dell laptop. This one is to be used by a lodger and me from time to time if necessary.

I am curious about Peppermint ... not heard of it before but heard of Linux. Just wish my programs would not run exclusively on Win ! Time may cure this I hope! :D


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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 04:12:42 pm »
Ahha I've managed to get it to break the prog running and have a gnu grub v 1.98-1 ubuntu5-1mint2

found an option for Recovery so ran it ...
got into a dos like state but now it wants a root password for maintenance !
But it isn't accepting any keys - don't seem to be able to type anything!
It says Cont D will continue so I'll have to do that I think ! 

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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 04:21:39 pm »
I mentioned earlier that when you type a password at a command prompt in Linux nothing is echoed to screen .. not even ****** but it IS going in, so just type it and hit enter.

That said, you shouldn't be being asked for a password if you select recovery mode and then drop to a root shell prompt
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 04:25:02 pm »
Would you like to create a LiveUSB of Peppermint and use that to reset the password (or reinstall Peppermint) ?

and have you got a 1GB or larger USB stick ?

But you should be able to reset the password if you follow the instructions I previously posted.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 04:35:59 pm by PCNetSpec »
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 04:40:06 pm »
PCNetSpec and AuroraMagic, I've compiled some tools that I've found helpful in the past that should help a Windows 7 user -- just in case you need them. 

And, AuroraMagic, welcome to Peppermint!  What a fun story to read!!  :)

http://peppermintos.com/

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Security-Related/MD5-and-SHA-1-Checksum-Utility.shtml

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Universal-USB-Installer.shtml
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 04:55:23 pm »
Thanks again!
Sadly my puta fella passed away so now everyone else 'enjoys the woes and trials' of my hazy crazy life!
:) :D
Rarely is anything seemingly straight forward! :)
My 1st puta was an amstrad 6242 ? something like that then an ibm xt with 5.25 floppys! :)

I did get to a recovery listing exactly as you suggested and it did ask for a pw for maintenance ! :)
I can take a piccy if that helps! But I'll try entering the data (I did try but I'll ensure I do) and hit enter.... I'm assuming that the cursor staying at the prompt isn't a worry then ?
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 05:04:46 pm »
If it asks for a password as soon as you select recovery mode, the only easy method will be a reinstall as the original user obviously password protected GRUB or used full disk encryption.

A reinstall isn't that hard .. but you'll need a 1GB or larger USB stick (thumb/flash drive).. have you got one ?
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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 05:53:04 pm »
OK got in again to the recovery boot bit ...
got the the Dos prompt bit and entered 1s home
and it still comes back with :
"Give root password for maintenance"

all the time the prompt cursor is at the command line prompt and flashing - like it isn't accepting the command?

So how can I re-install please, as this is failing ! :(

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Re: Received netbook with Ppmt on !
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2015, 06:03:32 pm »
OK we'll have to do this a slightly different way .. but ths is gonna take ages if you keep disappearing.

Can you get the Windows PC and the netbook in the same room, so you can respond to my posts quickly ?

remember to keep hitting your browser refresh button so you can see my replies when I make them.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 06:10:09 pm by PCNetSpec »
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