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Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« on: November 26, 2014, 08:11:50 am »
I heard about this the other day. Is this Mozilla's "Swan Song"?  Mozilla Takes $300M Gamble on Yahoo to Reassert Its Independence .
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 08:40:03 am »
I find it hard to believe after reading that article that chrome is the number one browser with a 60 percent market share, and firefox only has 24 %...  I don't know anyone that uses chrome, but everyone I know uses firefox.... ???
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 08:53:32 am »
Oh Chrome is definitelty #1 .. I keep an eye on browser stats from analytics on linux.co.uk, and every Windows user I know has Chrome .. it's hard to get away from, it's offered on every Google search ;)

Personally I think this could be good for Mozilla .. Google have been a competitor for ages, and have been pulling in a totally different direction than Firefox for quite some time with Webkit/Blink and forcing the use of their PPAPI plugin technology (breaking compatibility with a lot of plugins, and therefore software).

Mozilla *may* no longer feel pressure to switch solely to PPAPI plugins, and as Opera have recently switched to Blink, Firefox may end up as the only non Microsoft browser still supporting NPAPI plugins (so the only non Microsofft browser to still work with plugins such as Silverlight, Java, etc.).

Google lately seem intent on dictating web standards in the same way Microsoft did in the past .. I think that may backfire .. after all it was that kind of behaviour that drove people away from IE and to Firefox in the first place:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=12221.0
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 09:11:43 am »
When i first joined the internet back in 1995 i bought service with a local company in town, and back then you had to use what they gave you on a cdrom for a browser, and what they gave me for browsing was netscape navigator, and they gave me a mail program called pegasus mail, from what i understand pegasus is still made however i no longer use it...  Netscape ended up being sold to aol and before the sale the president of netscape took the engine and made it open source, and called his new company mozilla, and the netscape browser became firefox...  I have been using it since day one almost 20 years now, so I doubt i will ever switch unless perhaps it somehow goes away...   ;)
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 09:29:16 am »
Yep, I'm a "dyed in the wool" Firefox user too.

Sure Chrome is faster .. but Firefox has MANY more add-ons, and is MUCH more configurable.

Mostly though it's just what I'm "used to" :)

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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 09:46:34 am »
We use Chrome and Firefox here at home, but these days we use Chrome more.  Everything works with Chrome.  Now you need to go deep into the settings, and add a few extensions, like AdBlock, Privacy Badger, and HTTPS Everywhere, to assure privacy.  But Chrome really rocks, and when you add DuckDuckGo, StartPage, or Ixquick search engines, it becomes a great browser.  I believe it's the most rock solid thing out there. 

I admit Chrome's default set up is very intrusive and nosy -- but with the tweaks above, you're about a solid as you get on the Internet -- and it flies too.  But, most importantly, I feel more secure shopping online with Chrome.  The reason being, it gives more information about the security certificates of a site.  Firefox does this to some degree, but Chrome gives you more details, and warning colors.  I experienced what I'm saying firsthand the other day.  Chrome told me the online retailer I was visiting was secure but was using outdated security measures.  Chrome informed me that they might not be able confirm security of the site in the future.  Firefox gave me none of those details.

Firefox is an excellent browser.  But you still got to tweak Firefox for privacy too.  You still got to turn off those third party cookies.  You can use the same extensions and search engines in Firefox too, but instead of AdBlock, just use AdBlock Plus.  But Firefox is definitely a winner.  But as for a future with Yahoo?  Eh ...I don't know.  Maybe, this is good.  I don't know.  :-\
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 04:40:36 pm »
I find it hard to believe after reading that article that chrome is the number one browser with a 60 percent market share, and firefox only has 24 %...  I don't know anyone that uses chrome, but everyone I know uses firefox.... ???


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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 02:37:26 pm »
I understand why Mozilla went with Yahoo! and I do hope it turns out to be a good move for them.
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 01:48:17 pm »
I thought Micro Soft bought Yahoo. Am I right

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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 02:27:58 pm »
Not as far as I (or the rest of the web) know  :-\
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 06:00:02 am »
I thought Micro Soft bought Yahoo. Am I right

This maybe what you're referring to -- some sort of search alliance between Microsoft and Yahoo.  It rang a bell when you mentioned that.

http://news.microsoft.com/2010/02/18/yahoo-and-microsoft-to-implement-search-alliance/

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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2014, 01:48:53 pm »
Oh Chrome is definitelty #1 .. I keep an eye on browser stats from analytics on linux.co.uk, and every Windows user I know has Chrome .. it's hard to get away from, it's offered on every Google search ;) .... after all it was that kind of behaviour that drove people away from IE and to Firefox in the first place:
http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=12221.0

this Linux n00b wonders if Chrome/Chromium/Maxthon/SWare Iron all show up in stats as Chrome?

Must be some rolling of eyes and churning of stomachs amongst Mozilla Oldtimers... finding themselves allied with Microsoft against their old ally Google.... or is there such a thing as a mozilla oldtimer inside the building?

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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2014, 03:38:42 pm »
I'm a Firefox old timer :)

Never felt at home with Chrome/Chromium/<insert other webkit/blink browser>
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2014, 03:58:53 pm »
I'm a Firefox old timer :)

our first computer ran Netscape 3.0 Gold... So I've done the whole range of things they've done over the years... wasn't really a fan of the split into Phoenix, Firebird, Thunderbird.... just don't like Firefox anymore... dunno... Seamonkey's still my thing for now...
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Re: Mozilla split with Google to partner up with Yahoo.
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2014, 04:06:19 pm »
Each to their own .. I was never a real fan of "suites" .. not really in line with the Unix philosophy of "do one thing and do it well"

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