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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 06:35:49 pm »
andy if her emails and web pages are slow loading I don't think deleting kernels is going to help her out...  She has the same machine I do and my wifi works great, but PCNetSpec hooked me up with the proper driver for mine because p5 did not have the driver for it built in...
If you look at the inxi F on my machine card is identical....
http://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,1325.0.html
I would be willing to bet she has to install the same driver I did to get it to function properly... 
these are the instructions PCNetSpec gave to me to get mine working right...
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For Peppermint 5, connect to your router via an ethernet cable and run:
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sudo apt install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer firmware-b43legacy-installer linux-firmware-nonfree

wireless should work now.
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2015, 06:50:54 pm »
output #1:
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eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep firmware
ii  b43-fwcutter                               1:018-2                              i386         utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
ii  firmware-b43-installer                     1:018-2                              all          firmware installer for the b43 driver
ii  firmware-b43legacy-installer               1:018-2                              all          firmware installer for the b43legacy driver
ii  linux-firmware                             1.127.11                             all          Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
ii  linux-firmware-nonfree                     1.14ubuntu3                          all          Non-free firmware for Linux kernel drivers
eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $
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eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep b43
ii  b43-fwcutter                               1:018-2                              i386         utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
ii  firmware-b43-installer                     1:018-2                              all          firmware installer for the b43 driver
ii  firmware-b43legacy-installer               1:018-2                              all          firmware installer for the b43legacy driver
eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $
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output#3:
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eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1        29G  3.5G   24G  14% /
none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
udev            487M  4.0K  487M   1% /dev
tmpfs           100M 1016K   99M   2% /run
none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
none            496M   23M  474M   5% /run/shm
none            100M  8.0K  100M   1% /run/user
eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2015, 06:54:16 pm »
Well we can try the wl wireless driver instead of b43, but I'm not sure this is going to help if EVERYTHING is slow .. or is it just the internet that's slow ?
(bearing in mind an Intel Atom N270 is never going to breath fire)

As you seem to have an SSD, what's the output (if any) from:
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sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep TRIM
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2015, 07:07:52 pm »
I entered sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep TRIM in terminal and got nothing...

Seems like everything is slow, not just the internet... opening the software manager took a minute...

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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2015, 07:12:56 pm »
Also, I did this a while back because I couldn't get a wifi connection:

sudo apt install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer firmware-b43legacy-installer linux-firmware-nonfree
 
and someone said to do it. Maybe it was you, Robert?

So that was already done?

Sorry if I'm confusing the matter...

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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2015, 07:19:50 pm »
The software manager has always been a slow program to load (though a minute is certainly excessive)  .. how about other apps ? .. and have they got slower over time or have they always been slow ?

SSD's that don't support TRIM will likely get slower (for write operations) over time, but there's nothing that can be done about it besides a secure erase/format/reinstall ... see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_%28computing%29
and
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD_memory_cell_clearing
but BE AWARE a secure erase will COMPLETELY wipe the drive .. so don't do itt unless you plan on reinstalling from scratch.
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2015, 07:35:00 pm »
Also, I did this a while back because I couldn't get a wifi connection:

sudo apt install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer firmware-b43legacy-installer linux-firmware-nonfree
 
and someone said to do it. Maybe it was you, Robert?

So that was already done?

Sorry if I'm confusing the matter...
No it wasn't me I only mentioned it today when I seen our machines were quite the same however i do not have an ssd drive I have a plain sata 160 gb drive...
I also complained about slowness on mine on bootup, but i got that down to about 50 seconds which i can live with, but you are right the machine does seem slow all around, compared to my asus eee which has the same processor and hard drive, the asus flies and the dell is just blah-zay at best....  Maybe its a dell issue with the linux kernel who knows...  but i know what you are saying about slowness, cause i am experiencing it also... 
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2015, 07:51:03 pm »
Yeah, now that I checked, other programs are loading about the same as they did. I guess it's just the internet? You said something about trying another driver instead?  Also, I am a technology savant  :-[ when you talk about an ssd not supporting trim yada yada, my eyes kinda glaze over. I did, however, all on my own somehow, replace the drive awhile back. I can't tell you how I did it, though. I can't explain why I love this little dell so. It's really weird, I know...Just tell me the truth, is it time to let her go?... :'(

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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2015, 07:55:40 pm »
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I can't explain why I love this little dell so. It's really weird, I know...Just tell me the truth, is it time to let her go?

Not necessarily .. I have a bunch of netbooks, all of which also have Intel Atom N270 processors (same as yours), and I wouldn't be without them (in fact I'm answering you now on an Acer Aspire One) .. but just don't expect too much from them speed wise ;)

Anyway, we can try the wl drivers if you'd like ? .. but before we do, can you check if the internet is any quicker with a cabled connection ? .. if it isn't, then changing the wireless driver is not going to make a difference.

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It will also be a good idea to  see if just clearing your browser cache makes a difference .. which web browser are you using ? and I'll post instructions.

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I did, however, all on my own somehow, replace the drive awhile back.

So this SSD is fairly new ?

Just to get an idea of the condition of your SSD, can you install smartmontools with this command:
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sudo apt-get install smartmontools
then post the output from:
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sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda

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It'd also be a good idea to run a file system check .. open a terminal and run:
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sudo touch /forcefsck
then REBOOT .. a file system check will automagically run during the reboot.
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2015, 07:56:23 pm »
Hi Robert, Happy New Year mate  ;).  Yeh, I didn't think clearing the garbage out would do much.  I just saw from an earlier post that it maybe needed doing, so I though I'd help Evie do it anyway.  I'm really curious to see the outcome of this one though. 

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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2015, 08:06:21 pm »
Happy New Year to you to Andy, Yeah I am watching this one too... Hoping to gain a little insight on speeding it up a bit if it is possible, I know my asus is the same all around as my dell, except it has the 2 gig ram and the dell only has 1 gig...  I was going to upgrade the dell mini to 2 gig until i watched the video on how to do so, and i just laughed and said I'll live with 1 gig for now...  you have to remove the entire motherboard, and flip it over to replace the ram chip...  Dumb design, they could have easily put a cut out in the bottom of the machine, with a cover plate and screw, but they decided to make it impossible for joe average to upgrade his ram....
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2015, 10:06:03 pm »
Ok you guys,
I'll let you know if the wired connection is better. I might have to do it tomorrow, though.  In the meantime here's what I got from smartmontools:
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Setting up smartmontools (6.2+svn3841-1.2) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ...
eve@eve-Inspiron-910 ~ $ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [i686-linux-3.13.0-44-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     RunCore SSD
Serial Number:    321112310144
Firmware Version: AC013
User Capacity:    32,017,047,552 bytes [32.0 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
Local Time is:    Thu Jan  1 21:40:41 2015 EST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)   Offline data collection activity
               was never started.
               Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)   The previous self-test routine completed
               without error or no self-test has ever
               been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:       (    0) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:           (0x1d) SMART execute Offline immediate.
               No Auto Offline data collection support.
               Abort Offline collection upon new
               command.
               Offline surface scan supported.
               Self-test supported.
               No Conveyance Self-test supported.
               No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)   Saves SMART data before entering
               power-saving mode.
               Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x00)   Error logging NOT supported.
               General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   0) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   0) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x0000   006   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0000   167   018   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0000   215   008   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0000   023   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0000   220   250   000    Old_age   Offline      -       42341
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0000   091   251   000    Old_age   Offline      -       25760
200 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   196   102   000    Old_age   Offline      -       772
201 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   043   101   000    Old_age   Offline      -       756
202 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   111   039   000    Old_age   Offline      -       183
203 Run_Out_Cancel          0x0000   052   178   000    Old_age   Offline      -       161
204 Soft_ECC_Correction     0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
205 Thermal_Asperity_Rate   0x0000   136   019   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
206 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   175   009   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
207 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   095   014   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
208 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   236   010   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
209 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0000   045   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
211 Unknown_Attribute       0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
212 Unknown_Attribute       0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
213 Unknown_Attribute       0x0000   000   000   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0

Warning! SMART ATA Error Log Structure error: invalid SMART checksum.
SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

Warning! SMART Self-Test Log Structure error: invalid SMART checksum.
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported
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I also did the file system check and rebooted.

I think I know how to clear the the cache. Should I do that now?... it's chromium


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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2015, 04:30:06 pm »
Hi You Guys,
Yeah, it's not the connection because a wired connection was still sloooooow.  So is my only option to start from scratch?
Could it be a problem with Chromium? It seems to me, in the cob-webbed corners of my mind,  that I read somewhere that one should only run Chromium with Peppermint, not Chrome, and trying to run it would mess it up even if you switched back. I think that happened to me because when I first installed Peppermint 5, I signed in to Google and it thought I meant Chrome but then I signed out because I remembered someone saying to only use Chromium.  If this is all duh and doesn't make sense, please remember that I can only act like I know even the slightest bit of this stuff and I do everything by feel... :-[

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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2015, 04:41:10 pm »
No that's simply not true .. Peppermint 5 is happy with either Chrome or Chromium (or indeed both, or any other browser).

Can't hurt to try Firefox though .. install it with:
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sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-installer
then see if Firefox is also slow.

If it ISN'T slow, we can try clearing the Chromium cache .. or you can stick with firefox

Or we can try clearing the Chromium cache first if you'd like ?
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Re: Slow Loading
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2015, 04:57:57 pm »
Just looking through posts about browsers, I see that there's this "qupzilla" ? I'm not attached to any particular browser. Should I try that one? If not , how do I clear the cache?