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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2014, 01:11:22 pm »
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2014, 02:28:36 pm »
Here's an interesting observation.

My external hard drive, on which I run Peppermint 5, now updates automatically -- just like it should.  And my wife's labtop, a Toshiba C-50, which runs only Peppermint 5, does the same.  ;)

However my internal hard drive, on my Toshiba C-70 laptop, which runs Lubuntu's 14.04, still does not auto-update for me.

How the heck can I have both Peppermint 5 installations update perfectly from Ubuntu, and not have my Lubuntu installation doing the same -- especially since the updates it is receiving are coming straight from Ubuntu itself?

This makes no sense to me.  :-\

This isn't much of a problem for me, but, nonetheless, I don't understand why this is happening .

Any guesses?

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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2014, 03:15:07 pm »
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Any guesses?

Nope .. If I knew what's causing it, I'd have fixed it ;)

I can make little sense of it either .. All *my* PC's are fine, but some clients aren't  .. But I cannot find a common denominator, and don't have enough time with their PC's to troubleshoot it  :-\
(I'm currently just bunging mintupdate on my clients PC's)

There's also the issue where some PC's aren't able to select t5he boxes on the "Updates" tab of "Software & Updates" even though they should already display as ticked because the repos ARE active in their sources.list (not sure if tese are related issues)

Would help if one of my PC's had the problem .. then I'd probably have time to figure it out.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2014, 07:26:47 am »
Thank you, PCNetSpec,

I reported the issue to Lubuntu by sharing our thread.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250813

We'll see what comes of it.

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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2014, 09:35:15 am »
You're more likely to see some action if enough people click the green writing
This bug affects (n) people, Does this bug affect you?
at the top of this bug page
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563

I'm surprised more people haven't already reported this .. I see it as a MAJOR security issue, specially considering some people won't have automatically received the "bash bug" patches.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2014, 10:09:29 am »
I knew there was a reason I don't bother with the Ubuntu forum any more....

They've moved it to "chat"  ::)
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2014, 11:19:53 am »
I see it as a MAJOR security issue, specially considering some people won't have automatically received the "bash bug" patches.

It is an extremely serious issue.  I bet a lot of people have important security updates available to them and don't even know there's a problem.  Not everybody who uses Linux these days is comfortable working with the terminal.

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First of all, I find Ubuntu forum a very difficult place to navigate.  And I figure there can't be just a few of us with this update manager problem either.  But, according to Ubuntu, only eleven people, including myself, have reported that this bug affects them.  But logic tells us, from our Peppermint forum discussions alone, that a lot more than eleven people are experiencing this problem.  It's a serious issue.

So why aren't more bugs being reported?  I figure people don't know how -- myself included.  I would never have found that page without you sharing that link.  And, I searched before posting.  I really did.

Chatting will not help enough in resolving Ubuntu's update manager problem.

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Lubuntu Doesn't Auto Update But a Spinoff Does  

I like your title better than mine, but I can't change the title over at Ubuntu.  The gist of the thread now seems more concerned about protocol than resolving the issue itself.
 
I'm not saying protocol isn't important, or my first post at Ubuntu went perfectly, but what happened to the issue?  :-\

I apologized and asked them to move the tread to Support.  I wonder if they'll do so.



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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #97 on: October 31, 2014, 11:54:17 am »
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... but what happened to the issue?  :-\

Kinda what I meant by

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I knew there was a reason I don't bother with the Ubuntu forum any more....

IMHO, the Ubuntu forum though a great place for info (if you know how to separate the wheat from the chaff), has become a miserable place to 'take part', which is a pity.
(bare in mind this is not a reflection on Ubuntu itself .. probably more a reflection on how difficult it is to keep a forum that size a friendly place with a "community" feel)
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #98 on: October 31, 2014, 12:02:55 pm »
mint updater seems to be working fine after a redays of removing default and installing it.
As for now im sticking with that it seems much more stable.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #99 on: October 31, 2014, 12:11:09 pm »
You're more likely to see some action if enough people click the green writing
This bug affects (n) people, Does this bug affect you?
at the top of this bug page
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563

I'm surprised more people haven't already reported this .. I see it as a MAJOR security issue, specially considering some people won't have automatically received the "bash bug" patches.

thats when i noticed when  the bash bug was happening i thought 'oh ill be protected' than checked my system and wasn't ans found i wasn't getting those updates.
it certainly is a security issue and something they should make number 1 on the priority fix list.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #100 on: October 31, 2014, 12:23:07 pm »
it certainly is a security issue and something they should make number 1 on the priority fix list.

Amen to that!  ;)

That was quite an experience for me at the Ubuntu forum today. I wanted to start out short and sweet and see how things would go.  Well... :-X

I figured I've done my Scout's Duty over there!  Now it's up to them to figure what to do about it.  At least they've been notified of the problem.  They know now that my computer auto-updates in Peppermint, but not in Lubuntu.

Somebody at Ubuntu might eventually find that point interesting. 

At least I do anyway!

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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #101 on: October 31, 2014, 01:22:51 pm »
They've closed the topic .. and I must admit the moderator (coffecat) that closed it kinda has a point.

It would probably have been helpful if you'd described the issue you were having with Lubuntu, and asking for help resolving the issue  .. it *might* have been helpful to link to this topic for reference, but the posting should really have described the Lubuntu issue.
(throwing Peppermint into the mix in the FIRST posting was probably not the best way to ask for help on the Ubuntu/Lubuntu forum ;) .. it might have come across a bit "Peppermint is doing something better than Lubuntu" and somewhat confused matters)

BTW, Peppermint *does* suffer the same bug for *some* users .. nobody seems to have been able so far to put teir finger on what's causing it, when, and under what circumstances  :-\
(but the fact is, Peppermint and Lubuntu both suffer the same bug as they share the same method for receiving update notifications)
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #102 on: October 31, 2014, 01:33:23 pm »
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563

I'm surprised more people haven't already reported this ...

I must have missed this bug, on first reading.

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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #103 on: October 31, 2014, 01:48:22 pm »
It most certainly is a major security risk.  I feel sorry for anyone that gets knobbled by it.  They have put their faith in Ubuntu.  Ubuntu needs to respond to that faith with responsible development rather than chasing this "mobile pipe dream".  The development team at Canonical must be aware of the issue.  It beggars belief that it hasn't been made "Priority One".  Also, letting an issue of this magnitude perpetuate is beyond irresponsible.  It is plain sloppy and it could very easily irreparably undermine the reputation of Ubuntu.  Ubuntu is synonymous with Linux so the knock on effects could be disastrous for the greater Linux community.  I really hope they get their act together and better prioritise their responses towards bugs.  That's enough of me with my gloomy hat on for one evening :(
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #104 on: October 31, 2014, 01:58:08 pm »
I'm *guessing* the lack of people moaning about it on the Ubuntu forums (and the rest of the web) means it's working properly in Ubuntu (?), but it's hard to say as it doesn't affect everyone, so who knows how widespread this is  :-\
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