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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2014, 06:35:11 pm »
Who wants to try mintupdate as used in earlier versions of Peppermint ?
(with its system tray icon for updates)

Okay, I'll play guinea pig,  my system is doing the same as perknh's.  I'm well backed up if it all goes belly up  :).
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2014, 06:53:58 pm »
[EDIT]

Final instruction for installing mintupdate can be found here:
http://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?topic=1104.msg10003#msg10003

[END EDIT]

I've been testing it myself and can't see any reason why it should be risky .. that said no promises here :)

Currently running it with update-manager still installed (it seems happy enough for both to be installed), but later I'll try removing update-manager.

Here it is:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11876059/mintupdate_4.6.7%2Bpeppermint5_all.deb
(it's the standard Mint 17 version of mintupdate with the mint-common and mint-mirrors dependencies removed)
just download and double-click to install

Once installed, go to
menu > System Tools > Update Manager
Close the window that opens
You should now have a system tray icon (shield) .. right-click that shield, and select refresh .. if there are updates available, they should show up.

Also test that the system tray icon starts automatically after logging off/on or rebooting.



The above file is for both 32bit and 64bit Peppermint 5 (I've only tested it in 32bit so far though)

It works for me, and the offered updates tallied with what update-manager was offering.

For now, leave update-manager installed .. I'll post back here after I've tested with it removed .. but I need to wait for some more updates to come through.

Removal should be as simple as:
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sudo apt-get remove --purge mintupdate

[EDIT]

Please let me know if that displays update notifications properly, where update-manager doesn't.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2014, 07:07:00 pm »
That's up and running.  I've no outstanding updates because I did a manual one earlier.  We'll find out if it works on my 64bit rig in a few day I guess.  I'll keep you posted  ;).
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2014, 07:24:16 pm »
It is not working for me on Pep5, It keeps saying I am up to date, yet i did not run since last Saturday any updates, and when I opened the update manager it says I have several updates totaling 69.1 megs...  However it did install and work like you said it is sitting by the clock with a green check mark...  :)
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2014, 07:26:17 pm »
i can give it a shot how do you set up that updater?
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2014, 07:29:37 pm »
Ok Mark, it is now working after I fiddled with it a bit, I had to go into the preferences and check-mark a few things and apply, now it is working as it should, and showing the same updates as the original updater...  Kudos to Mark and a high five too...  Buy that man a beer and a box of farley's rusks...  ;)
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2014, 07:33:52 pm »
do you think this bug will be fixed??? its not that big of a deal as i'm still able to update but it was odd it just stopped randomly one day giving me the notifications.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2014, 07:36:20 pm »
Upon closer inspection they are not the same, the original updater shows me 69 megs of updates and the mint updater only is showing me 6 megs of updates the one file missing in the mint updater is a 65.5 meg file called ubuntu base which is not showing up in mint updater, but everything else seems to be there...  I am not going to do any updates till you can determine what is different between the two, I will keep it as is and be the Guinna pig....
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2014, 07:39:23 pm »
Can anyone that's installed this please remove it with:
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sudo apt-get remove --purge mintupdate
then re-download the file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11876059/mintupdate_4.6.7%2Bpeppermint5_all.deb
and double click it to install

I made a couple of changes, so it contains the peppermint mirros rather than the LinuxMint ones

Don't panic if you've already installed any updates with it ;)

Anyone installing this after the time it was posted, please ignore this posting as I've fixed the link above too.
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2014, 07:44:21 pm »
@rmj65

Have you ticked level 4 and 5 updates to make them visible ?

Mintupdate has a habit of marking things like kernel updates as not to be installed unless you specifically tick the box to make them visible .. then either manually select them or select them as "Safe" so they're ticked by default.

Did that make sense
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 07:49:40 pm »
gimme a few minutes I am uninstalling it now...

OK it is still the same mark it is showing I have updates but only 6 megs worth not 69 megs like the original one...
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2014, 07:51:10 pm »
that is what i had to tick in preferences to get it to work in the first place i ticked 4 and 5 on the safe side and clicked apply, and i did go back and undo that and then it didn't work at all again, so i re-ticked them and it works once more...
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2014, 07:55:51 pm »
@rmj65

Have you right-clicked the shield icon and told it to "Refresh" ?

Can you also refresh the default update-manager .. and see if they tally now ?



You could also run a simulated update from the command line:
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sudo apt-get -s upgrade
and see if the list of files the simulation says would have been installed tallies with what minupdate is offering
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2014, 08:06:33 pm »
when i refresh from the shield i get up to date...  i have to manually open it and click refresh inside to get any updates....
and then they do not match.... 
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Re: autoupdater not updating
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2014, 08:11:18 pm »
well its time for me to log off for the evening, I hope someone helps you figure it out if not I'll be back in 12 hours...   
its really flakey on my machine if i close the manager out and refresh by shield i get up to date...  then when i open the manager i get up to date now too, i have to go into preferences and uncheck the boxes and apply then i get a list again then i go in and recheck and list remains....  its totally weird...  maybe we can teamview it tomorrow and you can play with it Mark...  I have nothing on the laptop but P5 fresh install for testing purposes....
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