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(SOLVED) Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2014, 08:22:12 am »
eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.

lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.

wlan0     Scan completed :
          Cell 01 - Address: C0:3E:0F:3F:32:59
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=59/70  Signal level=-51 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"geordiejohn"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=00000000969317ad
                    Extra: Last beacon: 228ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000B67656F726469656A6F686E
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0104
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0104
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : CCMP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: 0B050300D70000
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1AAC181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D1606081500000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 7F03000008
                    IE: Unknown: DD800050F204104A0001101044000102103B000103104700102A32537F0ADDC21A5CADD3C200AD1E6C1021000842726F6164636F6D1023000842726F6164636F6D1024000631323334353610420004313233341054000800060050F20400011011000A42726F6164636F6D415010080002200C103C0001011049000600372A000120
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180203000C0000
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:24:B2:A1:5F:9C
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=46/70  Signal level=-64 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"Jaimatadi"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000044ca2a5ac47
                    Extra: Last beacon: 372ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 00094A61696D6174616469
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 050402030000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180200F0000000
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
          Cell 03 - Address: 00:8E:F2:AF:B9:3C
                    Channel:6
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality=49/70  Signal level=-61 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"virginmedia3995700"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000023a233b492a
                    Extra: Last beacon: 244ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 001276697267696E6D6564696133393935373030
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030106
                    IE: Unknown: 050400010000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0104
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0104
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1AFC181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D1606081500000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F204104A00011010440001021049000600372A000120
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180203F02C0000
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 10:53:31 am by penrose1950 »

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2014, 08:34:07 am »
OK, your wireless can see 3 access points (2 of which are probably your neighbours routers)  .. ALL of them are on channel 6

Switch your router from channel 6 to channel 11
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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2014, 09:13:19 am »
Thank you very much that is much quicker.

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2014, 11:59:29 am »
No problem :)

If the connection stays stable for a few days, can you please remember to come back and mark the topic (SOLVED) .. TIA :)
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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2014, 12:44:54 pm »
will do,it seemed that on auto it was putting about 3 users on the same channel but with your scan command i can see who is on what channel and then change mine.
thank you.

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2014, 01:40:37 pm »
I've had the same prob at my abode.  Channel 11 works best there.

Heh!  Good ol' Channel 11   ;D

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2014, 03:30:16 pm »
will do,it seemed that on auto it was putting about 3 users on the same channel but with your scan command i can see who is on what channel and then change mine.
thank you.

You're misunderstanding how this works....

You set a channel in the router and ALL devices that connect to that router will use that channel

The problem was you haved 2 neighbours who also have their router set to channel 6 .. so the routers were interfering with one another.

Setting "auto" in your router makes it try to automatically choose a channel that no other routers are using .. 2 problems can come out of this
1) where the router just plain gets it wrong
and
2) where the router changes channel for no apparent reason .. leaving all connected devices having to renegotiate a connection.

I think in this case, the main problem (at first) was the wireless driver needing the tweak.

Then you decided to change the channel in your router, and were just unlucky thhat you chose the same channel as your neighbours are using.

Did that make sense ?
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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2014, 04:17:41 pm »
All routers will be different, depending on the vendor, provider, service, et cetera, but as an example...

Here is the built-in GUI on the router I'm currently using:





Locking in the channel is quite simple, as long as you have auth...

EDIT

BTW, I'm just throwing this out there for public consumption.  Some user might not know what we're 'talking' about.

Oh, and please don't think poorly of me using the Ubu Unity DE, in the example above.

I have two Peppermint 5 machines running, right next to me.   :D
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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2014, 04:51:57 pm »
Quote from: VinDSL
Oh, and please don't think poorly of me using the Ubu Unity DE, in the example above.

I have two Peppermint 5 machines running, right next to me.   :D

Yeah right.....
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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2014, 05:16:22 pm »
Yeah right.....  ;)

LoL!  Truth...   :D

One is a DJ bot, serving songs 24/7.  You already know about that P5 machine -- the one with the hideously long uptimes.

The other P5 rig is my 'road warrior'.  I don't like placing it on my [private parts], thus requiring me to sit up, and lean over my desk.  I get enough of that action during the week.  Plus, my router is at the other end of the house, and this lappy gets quite warm.  I don't wanna fry my [baby making apparatus].  You know?

That leaves my Ubu +1 test desktop machine.  Normally, I run GS, but Unity just happened to be up.

Guess I should check a little more closely, before posting screenies, eh what? 

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2014, 05:30:46 pm »
Nope, don't know nuffink of the sort .....

Don't believe him folks, dat man's lyin and should be arrested  C:-) >:D C:-)
(fried noodle or no .. in fact that sounds like a fair punishment for postin Unity pics to me)

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2014, 05:49:17 pm »
In my defense, it's a pretty good job of disguising it, yes?   :P

Looks just like Gnome-Shell -- no visible "monkey vomit purple", so called...

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Re: internet keeps dropping out and sometimes no connection at login?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2014, 08:59:17 pm »
If you hadn't said anything......
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