Author Topic: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11  (Read 1450 times)

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2020, 01:14:39 am »
Well, that's a lot of information!  :o
Most of them I did not understand as I am still new to Linux.  :D
But I love how you guys responded to my post! Thank you so much!  :)
This is what I love about peppermint, the community of helpful people.  ::)

I believe in the peppermint team. I believe they will do what is necessary to build up a better future for peppermint. Please continue this great work. Peppermint brought life back to my laptop. Please don't drop the project.  :(
I hope to see peppermint go way beyond peppermint 11.
Thank you for all the effort and love that you guys put in this OS.

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2020, 12:16:34 pm »
stevesveryown is right. @grafiksinc and his 2 cohorts: thanks ;)
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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2020, 04:10:49 pm »
just assume non-techy users are using peppermint and tailor the setup towards those users, point and click and avoid terminal usage. im not saying pep/linux users are like that but there may be the odd case so keep things easy. thats the main draw towards this distro, some advanced users think certain things are pointless but to newbs it means a lot. thats why linux mint is so popular, does most of the work so the end user doesnt have to.
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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2020, 07:53:59 am »
hi grafiksinc,

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It is getting late now I will respond to your after thought about the Software Manager tomorrow.
Again thank you for your, feed back it really is helpful.

I know you must be really busy with family, job, and developing P11.

When you mentioned about getting back to me a couple of days ago, i DO understand all the demands on your time trying to juggle around things, lol.

I will, of course be patient and wait until you are able to do so, as it is not a pressing issue, just curious is all as to the outcome.

Thanks again for your answering things for me so far, and thank you for all your hard work here.

Regards,

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2020, 09:36:55 pm »
@theoman exactly ...right there with you that's why you always have a choice  to use automated features.... or terminal or mint-update... or any other update gui.  ;)

I am happy to hear that Pep11 is getting closer and I appreciate all the work by the dev's to continue Mark's work.   
 
I like the way Pep10 uses the mint tray indicator but I dislike how Mint 20 makes the mint updater the priority method of updating.  I prefer to use synaptic and if the mint updater is running in the background, synaptic is effectively neutered.   I prefer how Pep10 allows the mint indicator to signal updates but I then I am free to update with mint updater or open synaptic to get the job done. 

I also prefer to avoid the automatic update approach.  To me that means a background process that starts to run without my consent.   I had a bad experience with FerenOS where it would run an update script at start up that took forever to finish(high CPU) and that process prevented me from using the OS until it had finished.  Mind you, it was a low spec laptop but the lack of control was irritating.   

I have been running Peppermint since 7 and no other distro comes close...for me.   

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2020, 04:26:41 am »
@redwhite.....very good points, I do agree with you on the mint-update....
Admittedly so the automated updates on the front load does cause lag in my tests.
Thank you  ;) for your thoughts   

Yeah pep7 my favorite too especially the i3lock version they used. %uD83D%uDE01

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2020, 03:43:36 pm »
Hi there,
A Devuan version would fly for me.  I do tinker with that distro myself, and actually prefer 'Ceres'.   It may be categorized 'unstable', but like Sid in Debian actually runs very robustly. Read a lot of discussion on 'DE' choice, and TBH think that 'Gnome' is pretty good.  Running 3.28 in Debian Sid.  Added 'Dash-to-Panel', 'Caffeine', and 'Openweather'.  With panel at bottom of screen, some 40% transparency, there is a real keen and sharp look to it.  Even on my old hardware - 2g hard RAM - given a 2g SWAP it performs very well!
Maybe go for a real modern DE look such as this?  Add unique Peppermint theming and icon set and many would be attracted.  Given the support for "PopOS" it may be a goer?  Alternately, It might be nice to go for an Openbox build, but add a modern panel as opposed to 'Tint2' which baffles most users who want to be able to personalise their OS, but are either not savvy/tech enough, or just want to go with what is 'in-the-box'...?
Anyway, I think a switch to Debian or Devuan is a credible move, primarily to enable the retention in use of 32-bit hardware!  I know and see lots of comments about that one....
For now, Best wishes, and I can see something good coming soon from what I read in the forums here..
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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2020, 02:11:46 pm »
I have to agree with those that do not care for an automatic updater. There is nothing more frustrating than going into the terminal and trying to do something and finding out you can't. I always prefer an update icon to click on. However, I must give thanks to grafiksinc and the rest for their hard work and input to keep Peppermint alive. It is most frustrating to me to be unable to help. I should have learned coding. Keep up the good work guys.
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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 01:30:29 am »
However, I must give thanks to grafiksinc and the rest for their hard work and input to keep Peppermint alive. It is most frustrating to me to be unable to help. I should have learned coding. Keep up the good work guys.

Your willingness to continue helping answer the questions as they arise here on the forums helps tremendously @alynur!  8)

We are grateful, especially as the holidays arrive to take everyone's attention away from what's going on here in the forums... #teampeppermintOS could also use another pair of eyes on our Facebook and MeWe presences if you are on either of those?
 
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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 05:28:26 am »
If you guys have not seen it yet here is a review:
https://www.debugpoint.com/2020/09/xfce-4-16-features-release-date/
 ;)

« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 05:30:03 am by grafiksinc »

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2020, 07:10:57 am »
just assume non-techy users are using peppermint and tailor the setup towards those users, point and click and avoid terminal usage. im not saying pep/linux users are like that but there may be the odd case so keep things easy. thats the main draw towards this distro, some advanced users think certain things are pointless but to newbs it means a lot. thats why linux mint is so popular, does most of the work so the end user doesnt have to.


That's what sold me on Peppermint a few years back. I think it was P7 and first time using linux. But I loved how light it was and how easy it was for a total beginner. And it's all I've used since.   I just noticed the other day how much I use and prefer  terminal now . Still a newbie but I've come a long way. And had fun doing so! I set my grandparents up who are Very computer illiterate and they love it also. And I can actually help them with most of there problems or questions.

I'm glad to hear lxsession will be gone. It's always been a bit of bad actor for me.

One thought I had for future versions, and that  a real minimal install option. I've done the current  minimal install before but  there is still so much on there that I will never need.  And my go to removal/tweak list took a little time and error to create. But I'm betting there are some "techy and non-techy" minimalist out there who would also dig it ;D

And I really  wanted to say Thank you to those who have worked / continue to work hard to make this all happen. You all are amazing people and greatly appreciated!

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Re: XFCE 4.16 November and Peppermint 11
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2020, 12:47:41 pm »
That's what sold me on Peppermint a few years back. I think it was P7 and first time using linux. But I loved how light it was and how easy it was for a total beginner. And it's all I've used since.   I just noticed the other day how much I use and prefer terminal now . Still a newbie but I've come a long way. And had fun doing so! I set my grandparents up who are Very computer illiterate and they love it also. And I can actually help them with most of there problems or questions.

Part of @PCNetSpec's vision was getting linux in front of folks who would be put off by the techiness of many older distributions. We're sure he's smiling out there knowing he's added your grandparents to his list of conversions.

 
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I'm glad to hear lxsession will be gone. It's always been a bit of bad actor for me.

It was clear from the notes he left behind he was intending to eliminate the last bits of LXDE. So #teampeppermintOS're using that as guidance. We're still bandying about a few options where his guidance is not clear. Just know we're busily testing a few things.

 
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One thought I had for future versions, and that  a real minimal install option. I've done the current  minimal install before but  there is still so much on there that I will never need.   

While @PCNetSpec has offered that "minimal installation option" for many moons, he'd never had the time to make it truly minimal. We intend to change that in PMXI ... again, we're testing several options.

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And I really  wanted to say Thank you to those who have worked / continue to work hard to make this all happen. You all are amazing people and greatly appreciated!

#teampeppermintOS are blessed to have a devoted community who continue to appreciate and use Mark Greave's work. We thank you for your comments and we greatly appreciate the entire community's patience. Mark was a prolific poster and writer and left copious notations. It's taken the team a lot of time to work our way thru it all. 2020, has thrown many obstacles up along the way. Team members come and go as their family responsibilities & safety take precedence during such a strange year.

We hope to make him proud with what we release next.
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